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HelpStill suffering from name regret-thoughts/advice appreciated (LONG)
Sorry to repeat this saga for anyone:I am finding myself suffering from name regret: I named our 3rd daughter Rosalie Violet Kelley after much discussion, perusing of name lists/sites and books, and vetoing by my husband of almost every other first name I offered. I thought I liked it enough, but now I am starting to actually dislike it. She is now 7 weeks old.
To repeat, my other kids are from oldest down: Isabel, Schuyler, Saoirse, and Felix. Not worried about sibling matching, just want to avoid anything too matchy. I’ve had mild name regret at this time post-partum with all but Isabel, who I had regret with starting at about 3 years old and still wish I could change, but by 3-4 yrs it was too late. I love the 3 middle kids’ names now so clearly I do have some PP issues with this, but for some reason this last one is worse-for the following reasons:
1) Four people have mispronounced it as Rosa-LEE (as if it is two names with the emphasis on the “lee”) This makes it sound super tacky to me and having grown up correcting people that my name is Caroline, not Carolyn, I don’t really want to deal with that again- (and I have to do it w/ Isabel too b/c people always call her Isabella). Plus I never imagined people would pronounce Rosalie that way and it just makes my stomach turn.
2). It ends in “ee” and I generally like names that end in the “A” sound, as names that end in “ee” sound a bit cutesie to me. Problem is, DH vetoed almost all of my names ending in A. At the time, Rosalie seemed like a nice alternative that was still pretty w/o the A.
I know I have post-partum emotions still coarsing through me, but I also don’t want to live with severe name regret since I already deal with this with daughter #1, whom we named Isabel b/c my husband wanted a more traditional name and I was not as savvy about avoiding popular names and compromised.
My husband really likes the name Rosalie (which was my idea, btw, ack) he thinks I am totally unstable about the topic, but is MARGINALLY willing to entertain the idea of renaming her if I find something he likes as well or better and I set a time limit on the discussion. I would like to at least search a little more to see if I can’t find something that suits my tastes better that he might like as well. Maybe I really liked Rosalie for a reason and I’ll get over this nauseating response I have to hearing her name mispronounced, or that it ends in “ee” but I would like to hunt a little more.
I’d like to keep Violet as her mn, didn’t use it as the first name due to gaining popularity.
Goal is to stay out of the top 200.
These are the names I preferred that he vetoed.
Electra: All time fave
Isis (he thought too close to Isabel)
Cleopatra
Sapphira
Pandora
Georgia (doesn't like it or place names)
Gloria/Glory
Giselle
India ( he was semi OK with this- but again doesn't like place names)
Calypso
Indigo
Indira
Serafina (too much like Saoirse)
Thalia ( we both thought a tad clunky compared to Rosalie and a few people commented it a little rhyming with failure)
Persephone (long and ends in "ee" and don't want a nickname)
Katrina (I am leaning towards this but he doesn’t like it as he thinks it sounds too ethnic with Kelley, plus there’s the hurricane reference)
I like 2-3 syllable names that end in “a” and some other endings and probably should avoid their starting with “s”. Something unusual and/or exotic that can still work with Kelley, is feminine, and easy to say.
If you have any thoughts on name suggestions, or how I can get myself through this period of uncertainty, (or insanity) I’d appreciate it!
To repeat, my other kids are from oldest down: Isabel, Schuyler, Saoirse, and Felix. Not worried about sibling matching, just want to avoid anything too matchy. I’ve had mild name regret at this time post-partum with all but Isabel, who I had regret with starting at about 3 years old and still wish I could change, but by 3-4 yrs it was too late. I love the 3 middle kids’ names now so clearly I do have some PP issues with this, but for some reason this last one is worse-for the following reasons:
1) Four people have mispronounced it as Rosa-LEE (as if it is two names with the emphasis on the “lee”) This makes it sound super tacky to me and having grown up correcting people that my name is Caroline, not Carolyn, I don’t really want to deal with that again- (and I have to do it w/ Isabel too b/c people always call her Isabella). Plus I never imagined people would pronounce Rosalie that way and it just makes my stomach turn.
2). It ends in “ee” and I generally like names that end in the “A” sound, as names that end in “ee” sound a bit cutesie to me. Problem is, DH vetoed almost all of my names ending in A. At the time, Rosalie seemed like a nice alternative that was still pretty w/o the A.
I know I have post-partum emotions still coarsing through me, but I also don’t want to live with severe name regret since I already deal with this with daughter #1, whom we named Isabel b/c my husband wanted a more traditional name and I was not as savvy about avoiding popular names and compromised.
My husband really likes the name Rosalie (which was my idea, btw, ack) he thinks I am totally unstable about the topic, but is MARGINALLY willing to entertain the idea of renaming her if I find something he likes as well or better and I set a time limit on the discussion. I would like to at least search a little more to see if I can’t find something that suits my tastes better that he might like as well. Maybe I really liked Rosalie for a reason and I’ll get over this nauseating response I have to hearing her name mispronounced, or that it ends in “ee” but I would like to hunt a little more.
I’d like to keep Violet as her mn, didn’t use it as the first name due to gaining popularity.
Goal is to stay out of the top 200.
These are the names I preferred that he vetoed.
Electra: All time fave
Isis (he thought too close to Isabel)
Cleopatra
Sapphira
Pandora
Georgia (doesn't like it or place names)
Gloria/Glory
Giselle
India ( he was semi OK with this- but again doesn't like place names)
Calypso
Indigo
Indira
Serafina (too much like Saoirse)
Thalia ( we both thought a tad clunky compared to Rosalie and a few people commented it a little rhyming with failure)
Persephone (long and ends in "ee" and don't want a nickname)
Katrina (I am leaning towards this but he doesn’t like it as he thinks it sounds too ethnic with Kelley, plus there’s the hurricane reference)
I like 2-3 syllable names that end in “a” and some other endings and probably should avoid their starting with “s”. Something unusual and/or exotic that can still work with Kelley, is feminine, and easy to say.
If you have any thoughts on name suggestions, or how I can get myself through this period of uncertainty, (or insanity) I’d appreciate it!
This message was edited 4/2/2012, 9:57 PM
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Okay, I'm going to contribute as well, though I haven't read all of the replies to your thread. As such, please excuse me if I repeat any names that have been suggested to you already. :)
Adelphia Violet Kelley => Adelphia is the name of a plant genus, deriving its name from Greek adelphos "brother". You could use Adele for a nickname.
Alba Violet Kelley
Aliora Violet Kelley => This is a short form of Alianora, which is a variant of Eleonora.
Almina Violet Kelley => Almina is a rare Victorian name; a known bearer was the Countess of Carnarvon. Alternatively, you could use the variant Elmina instead.
Ambrosia Violet Kelley => You could always use Rosa as a nickname for this.
Amelia Violet Kelley => Just think of Amelia Earhart, a good namesake to have!
Aralia Violet Kelley => Aralia is the name of a plant genus, but I'm uncertain of the etymology.
Arina Violet Kelley
Aronia Violet Kelley => Aronia is the name of a plant genus, derived from Greek aria or aros "help, benefit".
Asteria Violet Kelley => Asteria is the feminine form of Asterius, the Latin form of Greek Asterios. Ultimately derived from Greek aster "star".
Astoria Violet Kelley => Astoria is derived from Astor.
Adelphia Violet Kelley => Adelphia is the name of a plant genus, deriving its name from Greek adelphos "brother". You could use Adele for a nickname.
Alba Violet Kelley
Aliora Violet Kelley => This is a short form of Alianora, which is a variant of Eleonora.
Almina Violet Kelley => Almina is a rare Victorian name; a known bearer was the Countess of Carnarvon. Alternatively, you could use the variant Elmina instead.
Ambrosia Violet Kelley => You could always use Rosa as a nickname for this.
Amelia Violet Kelley => Just think of Amelia Earhart, a good namesake to have!
Aralia Violet Kelley => Aralia is the name of a plant genus, but I'm uncertain of the etymology.
Arina Violet Kelley
Aronia Violet Kelley => Aronia is the name of a plant genus, derived from Greek aria or aros "help, benefit".
Asteria Violet Kelley => Asteria is the feminine form of Asterius, the Latin form of Greek Asterios. Ultimately derived from Greek aster "star".
Astoria Violet Kelley => Astoria is derived from Astor.
This message was edited 4/3/2012, 9:51 PM
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thank you for all the ideas! Sadly, I don't think my husband will go for ANY-accept maybe a Amelia,which I don't like.
I find Ambrosia interesting, and mentioned that, but every name I am putting out is a no-go. It seems that despite what he said about being willing to discuss the name- there is really no discussion.
I find Ambrosia interesting, and mentioned that, but every name I am putting out is a no-go. It seems that despite what he said about being willing to discuss the name- there is really no discussion.
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From nameberrry?
I still say that Rosalie is nice.
I still say that Rosalie is nice.
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Yes-I thought I recognized your name! I posted my saga both places! Thank you for chiming in, here and there!
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Rosalia?
For what it's worth, I personally love everything about Rosalie Violet Kelley (and I don't typically go for 2 middle names!). Rosalie is in my top 10 and it suits every age. Violet is very pretty and while it is gaining popularity, I haven't actually met any in real life. I much prefer Kelley with this spelling (as opposed to Kelly or any other). Finally, the whole combo has a wonderful flow and fits in quite well with her sibling's names without being matchy.
I also wonder how changing her name at this point will affect your older kids?
With all that in mind, how do you feel about Rosalia Violet Kelley? It's so similar to Rosalie, but it ends in the 'a' and the pronunciation should be more natural to others.
For what it's worth, I personally love everything about Rosalie Violet Kelley (and I don't typically go for 2 middle names!). Rosalie is in my top 10 and it suits every age. Violet is very pretty and while it is gaining popularity, I haven't actually met any in real life. I much prefer Kelley with this spelling (as opposed to Kelly or any other). Finally, the whole combo has a wonderful flow and fits in quite well with her sibling's names without being matchy.
I also wonder how changing her name at this point will affect your older kids?
With all that in mind, how do you feel about Rosalia Violet Kelley? It's so similar to Rosalie, but it ends in the 'a' and the pronunciation should be more natural to others.
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oh and I do think it would affect my older kids, my little boy (almost 7) is not keen on the idea of changing it. However, my oldest DD has not been as opposed, since she likes the other choices more.
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HI1 It's actually my last (married) name that is Kelley, I just have it all as I figured everyone needed all the info-but I am lad you like the flow-it means a lot to hear these endorsements. i do agree, it does suit every age kind of well, I am just having a hard time re-liking it now that I have unliked it!
I don't care for Rosalia, and I think it would suffer from similar name mispronunciations (Rose-a-LEE-ah, or Ros-AhL'-ya, etc.) Thank you for the ideas and just as importantly, the support.
I don't care for Rosalia, and I think it would suffer from similar name mispronunciations (Rose-a-LEE-ah, or Ros-AhL'-ya, etc.) Thank you for the ideas and just as importantly, the support.
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Hmmm, I don't have time to read the other responses so I hope I don't repeat any advice. First of all, Rosalie Violet is beautiful. It's a home run, in my book. Secondly, I have never heard it pronounced Rosa-LEE. Never. Still, I suppose anything is possible. I do think it would be easy to correct people, though. You could always call her Rose or Rosa or go with something similar such as Rosalia or even Rosanna or Rosalind. You know, it's funny how different things bug different people. I would have been troubled by the flow of RosaLIE KeLLEY, however, you're perfectly fine with that (you just don't care for the ee sound in general). OTOH, Rosa-LEE wouldn't have bothered me in the slightest yet it makes you feel nauseated. I'm so sorry to hear that, btw. Your baby's name should bring you joy.
Of your other choices, I love/like several:
Electra
Georgia
Gloria/Glory
India
Indira -- swoon
Katrina
I personally wouldn't use Isis with Isabel or Serafina (love it) with Saoirse, but that's just me. I also think no one can really advise you beyond suggesting names. Your baby's name has to feel right to you and your husband. Let us know what you decide. I'm really curious now!
Of your other choices, I love/like several:
Electra
Georgia
Gloria/Glory
India
Indira -- swoon
Katrina
I personally wouldn't use Isis with Isabel or Serafina (love it) with Saoirse, but that's just me. I also think no one can really advise you beyond suggesting names. Your baby's name has to feel right to you and your husband. Let us know what you decide. I'm really curious now!
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HI Elena, I am so glad that you also like the name. I love yours btw. I am also relieved that you have never heard it pronounced that way either-but when it happened 3-4 times I started to think it was no longer an anomaly.
I DID have a problem with the lie and ley, but I figured since it was the ONLY name he liked on my list, I'd let it go.
The other choices are all things he vetoed so not really an option, unless I work hard, and even then, he seems rather attached to Rosalie.
I agree with your opinion of the S and the I names, and am sorry I didn't use Isis on Isabel, but my DH would have none of that kind of naming.
I will keep you posted.
I DID have a problem with the lie and ley, but I figured since it was the ONLY name he liked on my list, I'd let it go.
The other choices are all things he vetoed so not really an option, unless I work hard, and even then, he seems rather attached to Rosalie.
I agree with your opinion of the S and the I names, and am sorry I didn't use Isis on Isabel, but my DH would have none of that kind of naming.
I will keep you posted.
This message was edited 4/3/2012, 4:42 PM
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I debated telling you what I'm about to tell you because I didn't want to add to your anxiety over this issue. The truth is, although many feel a parent will eventually adjust to their child's name and "get over it," some truly don't and will always feel a sense of regret. This happened with my youngest dd. While pregnant, I adored the name Caroline and my dh loved Anna which I liked but found a little plain. Whenever I suggested a mn to him, he'd immediately dismiss it and would say nothing sounded good with Caroline. We found out exactly at 20 weeks that it was a she and I had the bright idea that we'd go down the alphabet and see what "fit" her. The only other name we were entertaining (other than Caroline) was Elizabeth (nn Libby) so when we began with the letter A, somehow Anna stuck. Even my older dds were calling her Anna. Then both of our families were calling her Anna while I was having serious doubts. To top that, my dh chose the mn, Mackenzie, and I let that go even though I didn't particularly care for it. To this day, I'm not sure why I didn't say anything. When Anna was born, she had some problems and I wasn't focused on her name and as she grew, I found that I was calling her anything but her name. I started out calling her Annabella, then Bella, then Munchkin or Munchie. When she was eight or nine months old, I realized I didn't especially care for either name. I felt sad but thought we were stuck with her birth name. As she turned two, we finally sent off for her birth certificate. There was a mistake with her father's name (he's a junior and that wasn't included) and we needed to amend it.
This message was edited 4/3/2012, 8:25 PM
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Thank you for sharing your story. Oh my, well Caroline is my name and I love it, so I am glad you finally got the chance to insert it! You are right, the situation is different in that unfortunately I introduced the name Rosalie to him and yet now I am the one shying away from it, whereas it sounds like you got kind of bullied into (or out of) your choices.
I just now offered him a list of 29 names, (no kidding!), as he wanted to get this over with and didn't want to talk about it or even table it for a week (per others' suggestions) the names were some re-introduced, and others new, which i like as well as or more than Rosalie-he vetoed ALL of them, saying he did not like any. He said he wouldn't go over why he did not like them, he just didn't (most of them he thinks are too on the fringe of normal). I then asked him, so what am I do to do if I am not sold on her first name? He simply responded 'then call her Violet.' and went to bed. So while he doesn't offer any names up, he seems to be unable to agree to anything else, leaving me in the same position as I was before, not feeling certain/passionate about this name but having no other options.
I am rewarming to Rosalie as I get more and more kind and supportive endorsements, and many rather passionate responses about how lovely it is. Still, I so very much wish I could have named her one of my true loves. At least I got Saoirse, Schuyler, and Felix all of which were #1 or #2 for me at the time.
As I mentioned- I have suffered mild name regret with most of my children and then managed to come back around to loving the name. the big difference with the others was I really loved the initial choices, but thought the second choices might be better whenever i hit stumbling blocks of pronunciation, etc. and started to second-guess myself. With this name, Rosalie, I am just not feeling the love right now. It's cute, I like it alright, but not dazzling the way Electra or Sapphira would be to me. I don't feel the same way I did about it 7 weeks ago.
I just now offered him a list of 29 names, (no kidding!), as he wanted to get this over with and didn't want to talk about it or even table it for a week (per others' suggestions) the names were some re-introduced, and others new, which i like as well as or more than Rosalie-he vetoed ALL of them, saying he did not like any. He said he wouldn't go over why he did not like them, he just didn't (most of them he thinks are too on the fringe of normal). I then asked him, so what am I do to do if I am not sold on her first name? He simply responded 'then call her Violet.' and went to bed. So while he doesn't offer any names up, he seems to be unable to agree to anything else, leaving me in the same position as I was before, not feeling certain/passionate about this name but having no other options.
I am rewarming to Rosalie as I get more and more kind and supportive endorsements, and many rather passionate responses about how lovely it is. Still, I so very much wish I could have named her one of my true loves. At least I got Saoirse, Schuyler, and Felix all of which were #1 or #2 for me at the time.
As I mentioned- I have suffered mild name regret with most of my children and then managed to come back around to loving the name. the big difference with the others was I really loved the initial choices, but thought the second choices might be better whenever i hit stumbling blocks of pronunciation, etc. and started to second-guess myself. With this name, Rosalie, I am just not feeling the love right now. It's cute, I like it alright, but not dazzling the way Electra or Sapphira would be to me. I don't feel the same way I did about it 7 weeks ago.
This message was edited 4/3/2012, 9:15 PM
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This is a big deal. I think you need to spend a lot of time talking with your husband about this. There's only so much help we can be. Some of us will love Rosalie, some of us won't. Some of us will think you're "just" hormonal, some of us won't. Since you are the one who is thinking of the change, I think the idea of setting a time limit on the discussion is a good one. If he is up for that. Maybe you can say you reconvene in two weeks with a list of names you both like better than Rosalie. Mull over each other's lists and see if there's anything you can agree on. If not, there is absolutely positively not a single thing in the world wrong with Rosalie. And people will figure out how to pronounce it, I promise. I really don't think you will love Rosalie any less just because her name is not your number one favourite. People adopt/foster/parent children whose names they did not choose all the time. At some point you will need to accept that your daughter's name for what it is (whether you change it or not) and move on. I hope you can find peace with this soon.
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hmm, OK, i was thinking I needed to do it by tonight. I was just on the phone with a close friend and she was so surprised about my regret, saying she thought Rosalie was a home run. Part of me wonders if I do just need to let it go, but part of me does want some time to mull it over. I like your idea of our both coming to the table with names. he has never offered up names because he says I always come up with something he likes-and i don't think he will this time since he is happy with Rosalie. The burden will be on me. I'll definitely place a limit on any time to discuss per his request and your suggestions, but I'll need to come up with something other than names he has vetoed.
Interesting point about my not loving it less-simply because it was not #1...I am warming up back up to it now that many people have dispelled the notion of it's tackiness or potential common mis-emphasizing. Still feeling a bit morose about it's not ending in A, so i will do a bit more hunting and then I'll need to call it quits.
Interesting point about my not loving it less-simply because it was not #1...I am warming up back up to it now that many people have dispelled the notion of it's tackiness or potential common mis-emphasizing. Still feeling a bit morose about it's not ending in A, so i will do a bit more hunting and then I'll need to call it quits.
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Hi,
No I didn't care for Rosalia so it never came up. Ok, I will try to patiently give myself a few days and make up a list. Problem is 1)It seems like such a time-sensitive issue and 2)I just keep coming back to the same names now, all of which he vetoed!!!! It is helping me that outsiders like her name so much, and I am guessing that your other suggestion of my remembering why I liked Rosalie will be the path I'll need to take. I probably need to give myself a while to et away from the thoughts of "Rosa Lee" ringing in my ears.
No I didn't care for Rosalia so it never came up. Ok, I will try to patiently give myself a few days and make up a list. Problem is 1)It seems like such a time-sensitive issue and 2)I just keep coming back to the same names now, all of which he vetoed!!!! It is helping me that outsiders like her name so much, and I am guessing that your other suggestion of my remembering why I liked Rosalie will be the path I'll need to take. I probably need to give myself a while to et away from the thoughts of "Rosa Lee" ringing in my ears.
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Yes, I could try to just ignore it and be my own person and be confident in my name choice-I just don't know if I can stomach it ALL her life and I am worried I won't get over it.
FWIW I have talked to him and he says he's willing for me to CALL her Violet, that he'd be a little sad as he likes Rosalie and thinks it is wrong to change any child's name after that child is named-but he'd be willing to call her violet w/o an official name change and that's about it. He's happy with Rosalie and has no intention of changing it. So my option is really to decide if I want to call her by her middle name Violet now, or stick with her given first name. He thinks Katrina sounds too Russian????
FWIW I have talked to him and he says he's willing for me to CALL her Violet, that he'd be a little sad as he likes Rosalie and thinks it is wrong to change any child's name after that child is named-but he'd be willing to call her violet w/o an official name change and that's about it. He's happy with Rosalie and has no intention of changing it. So my option is really to decide if I want to call her by her middle name Violet now, or stick with her given first name. He thinks Katrina sounds too Russian????
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Well said, I agree! Especially about the time limit
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my second stab at it...
Elsa
Norah
Zaria
Megaera
Audra
Hera
Tessa
Eliza
Bianca
Carina / Karina (not so hurricane-y)
Pomona
Paloma
Matea / Mattea
Thea
Keira
Kaya
Tabitha
Vanessa
Nina
Luella
Junia
Imelda
Alba
Estella
Moriah
Deirdre
Francesca
Hannelore
Jada
Glenna
Georgina (a compromise between Georgia and not wanting a place name?)
Rowena
Winona
Marina
Maren
Elise
Amelia
Catalina (not so hurricane-y)
Marta
Ambrosia
Lorena
Anisa
Nola
Adela
Leona
Viveka
Elsa
Norah
Zaria
Megaera
Audra
Hera
Tessa
Eliza
Bianca
Carina / Karina (not so hurricane-y)
Pomona
Paloma
Matea / Mattea
Thea
Keira
Kaya
Tabitha
Vanessa
Nina
Luella
Junia
Imelda
Alba
Estella
Moriah
Deirdre
Francesca
Hannelore
Jada
Glenna
Georgina (a compromise between Georgia and not wanting a place name?)
Rowena
Winona
Marina
Maren
Elise
Amelia
Catalina (not so hurricane-y)
Marta
Ambrosia
Lorena
Anisa
Nola
Adela
Leona
Viveka
This message was edited 4/3/2012, 11:55 AM
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You know- i like Deirdre a lot, but I have an issue with it I've heard people say "Dear-dra" and "Dee-eh-dra" and "Dee-dra." I think it would drive me more nuts than Rosalie not knowing what it would be for people-even though I think it is really pretty. I don't even know if there is a proper way!
Thank you for these ideas! I like a lot of them-I know he will veto most of them if he hasn't already...but it's worth reading and adding the ones I like.
Thank you for these ideas! I like a lot of them-I know he will veto most of them if he hasn't already...but it's worth reading and adding the ones I like.
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I changed my daughters name to Violet when she was 7 months old. I was young (22), clueless, and allowed her fruit loop of a father to name her Azlynd. Horrific!! I got so many negative faces, comments, it was awful. Luckily I had a home birth, and had not gotten around to doing her birth certificate so didn't have to legally change it. She's now 6 years old and it's as if it never happened. A few people had trouble switching over and small talk about it got old and annoying quick! After 6 months or so all of that died down.
I really like Rosalie. Yes some will pronounce it with a lee. If that can happen with Caroline, and many many other names like mine (Kayla, people often call me Kyla), then many names aren't safe. Plus, Saoirse will always be mispronounced. Name regret is common. I named my first son Sage when I was 19. It fits him well and I do like it, but it's really not my taste now. That was 10 years ago. People change and their naming styles changes. My sibset will never go together perfectly. My kids are widely spaced.
I don't think Katrina is ethnic. I adore Indira. I met an adult Calypso and it was nice on her. It didn't seem to far out there. LOVE Gloria!! I always get visions of morning glorys. I'm having a girl in August and have considered it though my mom's next door neighbors baby is Gloria. Long story. I do not like Isis, Cleopatra, India, Sapphira - too epic and over the top. I like Thalia a lot. How about Dahlia? Both are on my list. I think Dahlia flows better. I like Persephone, I almost want to add it to my list, but do not like how it sounds Stephanie. Serafina is on my list. I love it. My dd's 5'th grade buddy is Serafina and I think it goes nicely.
Your list reminds me of my own, so here it is. Have at it. And just for the record. Io Rose-a-lie!
Adalaide
Adalise
Alicia
Annaliese
Amelia
Ariella
Athena
Birgitta
Celia (See-lee-ah)
Cecilia
Bir
Clementine
Dahlia
Daphne
Davina
Delphina
Elizabeth
Elizabetta
Elise
Eloisa
Eloise
Emma
Estella
Eve
Feline (Fay-leen)
Felina (Fay-lee-na)
Fiona
Florence
Freya
Gloria
Greta
Gwendolen
Imogen
Isla (eye-la)
Isabeau
Isadora
Josephine
Liesl (lee-zl)
Lilah
Lilia
Lillian
Lucia
Lucianna
Madalena (lay-na)
Madelina (lee-na)
Madalene (lain)
Maeva (Ma-ava - French)
Mirabel
Noa
Octavia
Odessa
Penelope
Rosalie (Rose-a-lie)
Roxana
Roxanne
Serafina / Seraphina
Sofia / Sophia
Stella
Thalia ( thayl-lee-ah, tha-lye-ah)
Viviana
Vivienne
Wilhelmina
Zelda
Zipporah
I really like Rosalie. Yes some will pronounce it with a lee. If that can happen with Caroline, and many many other names like mine (Kayla, people often call me Kyla), then many names aren't safe. Plus, Saoirse will always be mispronounced. Name regret is common. I named my first son Sage when I was 19. It fits him well and I do like it, but it's really not my taste now. That was 10 years ago. People change and their naming styles changes. My sibset will never go together perfectly. My kids are widely spaced.
I don't think Katrina is ethnic. I adore Indira. I met an adult Calypso and it was nice on her. It didn't seem to far out there. LOVE Gloria!! I always get visions of morning glorys. I'm having a girl in August and have considered it though my mom's next door neighbors baby is Gloria. Long story. I do not like Isis, Cleopatra, India, Sapphira - too epic and over the top. I like Thalia a lot. How about Dahlia? Both are on my list. I think Dahlia flows better. I like Persephone, I almost want to add it to my list, but do not like how it sounds Stephanie. Serafina is on my list. I love it. My dd's 5'th grade buddy is Serafina and I think it goes nicely.
Your list reminds me of my own, so here it is. Have at it. And just for the record. Io Rose-a-lie!
Adalaide
Adalise
Alicia
Annaliese
Amelia
Ariella
Athena
Birgitta
Celia (See-lee-ah)
Cecilia
Bir
Clementine
Dahlia
Daphne
Davina
Delphina
Elizabeth
Elizabetta
Elise
Eloisa
Eloise
Emma
Estella
Eve
Feline (Fay-leen)
Felina (Fay-lee-na)
Fiona
Florence
Freya
Gloria
Greta
Gwendolen
Imogen
Isla (eye-la)
Isabeau
Isadora
Josephine
Liesl (lee-zl)
Lilah
Lilia
Lillian
Lucia
Lucianna
Madalena (lay-na)
Madelina (lee-na)
Madalene (lain)
Maeva (Ma-ava - French)
Mirabel
Noa
Octavia
Odessa
Penelope
Rosalie (Rose-a-lie)
Roxana
Roxanne
Serafina / Seraphina
Sofia / Sophia
Stella
Thalia ( thayl-lee-ah, tha-lye-ah)
Viviana
Vivienne
Wilhelmina
Zelda
Zipporah
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I like a lot of your names. i like your story too, and am lad you had success changing a name. (I too had two homebirths, though this time I did not as I had hemorrhaged with my last birth)so we selected the name before we left. I also liked Zelda, DH wasn't too keen. i have always liked Gloria-he finds it tacky.
Consistency with the other names is not something that bugs me either, as long as the names aren't the same. I.e. my family's names do not have to match wither other, they are all individuals. On the other hand, a name that is way too out there might make a child uncomfortable.
I don't find Katrina ethnic either, fwiw, I think that my DH's opinion on this is weird. But he gets a say.
Not fussed about pronunciation issues too much as long as it is correctable, I think my issue with this one is that it seems so hard too correct people, that it is "ROS'-a-lie" they'd just say, "that's what I said, 'Rosa-LEE'' Guess at that point I just have to say, oh well.
Consistency with the other names is not something that bugs me either, as long as the names aren't the same. I.e. my family's names do not have to match wither other, they are all individuals. On the other hand, a name that is way too out there might make a child uncomfortable.
I don't find Katrina ethnic either, fwiw, I think that my DH's opinion on this is weird. But he gets a say.
Not fussed about pronunciation issues too much as long as it is correctable, I think my issue with this one is that it seems so hard too correct people, that it is "ROS'-a-lie" they'd just say, "that's what I said, 'Rosa-LEE'' Guess at that point I just have to say, oh well.
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Bir should be Birgetta.
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I pretty much agree with RoxStar. My sister had a case of name regret (second son was named Trevor, and for a little while afterwards she thought "My God what did I do?") but she got over it. Also, I like Rosalie much more than any other name on your list except India and Katrina. But then I think maybe India has too Southern a feel for somebody in Massachusetts. Also, although I love the sound of India, I'd wonder if people thought I named her India for some reason having to do with the country, which I wouldn't want them thinking if this wasn't true.
Then, Katrina does have the hurricane association, but worse, it may get automatically shortened to the overused and tired Katie.
So I think you should let it go and stick with Rosalie and things will get better. If it's any consolation, at least people here seem to really like Rosalie, whereas I've seen Trevor pop up over and over again in response to "Most Hated Names" and "Names That Make You Shudder" posts!
By the way, I think it's weird that people are saying "Rosa Lee." I've never heard anyone do that.
Then, Katrina does have the hurricane association, but worse, it may get automatically shortened to the overused and tired Katie.
So I think you should let it go and stick with Rosalie and things will get better. If it's any consolation, at least people here seem to really like Rosalie, whereas I've seen Trevor pop up over and over again in response to "Most Hated Names" and "Names That Make You Shudder" posts!
By the way, I think it's weird that people are saying "Rosa Lee." I've never heard anyone do that.
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My stepsister's second son is named Trevor. Haha.
I pronounce Rosalie like Rosa Lee. How do you pronounce it?
I pronounce Rosalie like Rosa Lee. How do you pronounce it?
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ROZ-a-lee, with the emphasis on the first syllable, and no break at all between Rosa and lie. It doesn't sound like Rosa Lee. If I were saying Rosa Lee, there would be a small break between Rosa and Lee, and I would emphasize Lee as much as the Ros in a Rosa.
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Thank you for your thoughts. I feel your sister's pain-it is tough to second guess yourself on something seemingly so important, and to have to aree with someone who has such different opinions.
I appreciate your thoughts. Your opinions on India are very similar to that of my DH-in his opinion he has no particular reason to name a child after India, so why would he? As for Katrina, my bigger concern is Trina, not Katie. Katya is pretty though. But I do worry everyone would think, why did she name her daughter after a hurricane? I already have an Isabel...that hurricane hit Va 5 months after my DD was born.
I appreciate your thoughts. Your opinions on India are very similar to that of my DH-in his opinion he has no particular reason to name a child after India, so why would he? As for Katrina, my bigger concern is Trina, not Katie. Katya is pretty though. But I do worry everyone would think, why did she name her daughter after a hurricane? I already have an Isabel...that hurricane hit Va 5 months after my DD was born.
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I think it's a bit silly for someone to think a child is named after a hurricane. After all, the names given to hurricanes have been in use FAR longer than we have been naming hurricanes. (I wonder if someday there will be hurricanes named Jayden and McKynleigh. I'd say I hope not, but maybe all the people who think Katrina, Andrew, Gloria or Hugo are named after hurricanes won't name their kids Jayden etc. Heh.)
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Probably a few people named their kids after hurricanes, if the kids were born during or almost during the storms. I heard of a lady who gave birth in a storm shelter during Hurricane Isabel and named her baby Isabel, for instance.
But probably most people directly affected by a bad hurricane would not want to name babies after the storm. Nor do I think anybody would naturally assume that a particular baby was named after a storm, unless the name itself was very uncommon and only became widely known due to being the name of a bad storm.
But probably most people directly affected by a bad hurricane would not want to name babies after the storm. Nor do I think anybody would naturally assume that a particular baby was named after a storm, unless the name itself was very uncommon and only became widely known due to being the name of a bad storm.
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I agree with you, but I am afraid he won't. And it's not so much the "she was named after" for him I imagine as the association with a relatively recent negative event.
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i think this is your hormones talking for you...
1. You are all upset because some people have pronounced Rosalie like it's Rosa Lee. All right, I get that, and it is annoying. But you've got a Schuyler and, for God's sake,a Saoirse! Don't tell me you don't have people mangling those names too, especially Saoirse?
2. I certainly hope you see that Indigo Violet is totally ridiculous, and why it is.
3. And you think people won't mangle Persephone?
4. Isabel is definitely in the top 200, and Skylar, spelled like that, is too. This worry over having the name be too popular appears to be dependent on whether you happen to love the name or not.
let it go. The name regret is normal, but you're feeding it and making it grow. You liked Rosalie, your husband liked Rosalie. I doubt that many people will mispronounce the name, certainly not as many as would mangle Saoirse or Persephone. It's fine.
1. You are all upset because some people have pronounced Rosalie like it's Rosa Lee. All right, I get that, and it is annoying. But you've got a Schuyler and, for God's sake,a Saoirse! Don't tell me you don't have people mangling those names too, especially Saoirse?
2. I certainly hope you see that Indigo Violet is totally ridiculous, and why it is.
3. And you think people won't mangle Persephone?
4. Isabel is definitely in the top 200, and Skylar, spelled like that, is too. This worry over having the name be too popular appears to be dependent on whether you happen to love the name or not.
let it go. The name regret is normal, but you're feeding it and making it grow. You liked Rosalie, your husband liked Rosalie. I doubt that many people will mispronounce the name, certainly not as many as would mangle Saoirse or Persephone. It's fine.
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yeah
Yeah, I was going to say that in #1 yesterday! but my mouse died and I had to restart. Also, Katrina is ethnic with Kelley, but Schuyler isn't? Wha.
I'm not on board about it being "hormones" but I do think it's sort of self-indulgent to obsess about it. What's done is done; you change your mind every day. A good name was chosen, the box is checked off. If you don't have another specific name that both parents really desire to change it to, why freak out.
Anyway my suggestion is Calista. I kinda like how it sounds with Kelley.
Yeah, I was going to say that in #1 yesterday! but my mouse died and I had to restart. Also, Katrina is ethnic with Kelley, but Schuyler isn't? Wha.
I'm not on board about it being "hormones" but I do think it's sort of self-indulgent to obsess about it. What's done is done; you change your mind every day. A good name was chosen, the box is checked off. If you don't have another specific name that both parents really desire to change it to, why freak out.
Anyway my suggestion is Calista. I kinda like how it sounds with Kelley.
This message was edited 4/3/2012, 10:19 AM
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For a moment there, I was about to sympathize with you,thinking you had a little rodent that was no more. Then I realized, no, you refer to a computer mouse.
I guess because I'd been reading about funerals in the lounge.
I sort of feel like my kids came with their names, could never imagine them being anything but what they are. With each, though, I had to stop referring to them as "The Baby."
I guess because I'd been reading about funerals in the lounge.
I sort of feel like my kids came with their names, could never imagine them being anything but what they are. With each, though, I had to stop referring to them as "The Baby."
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I am not sure why he thinks Katrina is too ethnic-but he does. i think I prefer it to Rosalie but I know he doesn't, so I may have to let it all go, whether it is self-indulgence, hormones, or nothing but sheer regret. He did not like Calista, I remember that specifically, but thank you for the idea!
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Sorry if I sounded harsh ... I do relate to you. I've had some pangs of self-criticism for the names I gave. But it's not bad, I still like them a lot, and those are their names. I felt sort of disempowered once the naming was done - but the cake was baked, I would have felt too silly trying to unbake it, and also ... I enjoyed just being fascinated at what I had wrought, that had gone beyond me. Bearing the given name is like the second separation of child from mother (the first one being birth). Gotta let go.
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Thats's pretty much how my husband feels. Thank you for apologizing for sounding harsh, and I appreciate your opinion, I can totally understand the point that both you and he are making, it's hard to imagine actually doing it (changing her name)but I also would like too think I did not make a collosal mistake. I still have such regret over my oldest child's name, i guess that is part of it for me, that he would not let me use the names I loved then, etc.
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I'm going to agree with RoxStar for the 1000th time...
I don't see anything wrong with Rosalie Violet Kelley. Actually, I think it's quite pretty. It's not really a big deal to correct people on the syllable emphasis of Rosalie (unless you're pronouncing it ROZ-a-lee? I assume not). Admittedly, this is coming from someone who has had to spell her first name out all her life and then at 28 chose an even more difficult (middle) name to go by. With the nature of naming these days, though, nearly everyone has to correct and/or spell out.
Just curious, though - what exactly sounds too ethnic about Katrina Kelley? I'm not seeing it.
As an aside, I love Persephone, Isis, and Thalia. I do like the "THAY-lee-ah" pronunciation, but the one I use is "THAL-ee-ah." Persephone would probably have been my choice for myself if I hadn't immediately struck a chord with my new name.
I don't see anything wrong with Rosalie Violet Kelley. Actually, I think it's quite pretty. It's not really a big deal to correct people on the syllable emphasis of Rosalie (unless you're pronouncing it ROZ-a-lee? I assume not). Admittedly, this is coming from someone who has had to spell her first name out all her life and then at 28 chose an even more difficult (middle) name to go by. With the nature of naming these days, though, nearly everyone has to correct and/or spell out.
Just curious, though - what exactly sounds too ethnic about Katrina Kelley? I'm not seeing it.
As an aside, I love Persephone, Isis, and Thalia. I do like the "THAY-lee-ah" pronunciation, but the one I use is "THAL-ee-ah." Persephone would probably have been my choice for myself if I hadn't immediately struck a chord with my new name.
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Thalia...
I don't care for it, because I don't like th sounds, but I do like the pronunciation Thay-Lee-A. Or rather, Thayl-yuh.
Funny thing is, Thalia is the name of the town in Larry McMurtry's Last Picture Show series. But for some reason, when they made movies of some of the books, they changed the name of the town to Anarene.
There really is a Thalia, Texas, but the one McMurtry uses is made up and I think, in a different part of the state from the real Thalia. In any case I have no idea how the book Thalia is supposed to be pronounced, but I assume it's Thayl-yuh.
I don't care for it, because I don't like th sounds, but I do like the pronunciation Thay-Lee-A. Or rather, Thayl-yuh.
Funny thing is, Thalia is the name of the town in Larry McMurtry's Last Picture Show series. But for some reason, when they made movies of some of the books, they changed the name of the town to Anarene.
There really is a Thalia, Texas, but the one McMurtry uses is made up and I think, in a different part of the state from the real Thalia. In any case I have no idea how the book Thalia is supposed to be pronounced, but I assume it's Thayl-yuh.
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that was a bi deterrent for me, the "TH" is a bit of a turn off, but the alia is pretty.
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Hmm... I like the "TH," I find it interesting. It stands out from most of the sounds that are popular right now. But I also have weird preferences when it comes to sounds in words and names - for instance, I love names that begin with F and "Ar."
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For some reason, he finds Katrina too European (as opposed to Irish or Enlish sounding?). He is also bothered by the hurricane assoc.
We both liked Persephone a bit but thought it would get shortened and did not want a name too long, I had a discussion with him about changing it to that last week and he said he would not change it to Persephone, likes Rosalie MUCH better, so I know that is out. Isis is out even though I LOVE it b/c he feels it is just too close to Isabel in spelling (not pron.)
Thalia-I went back and forth on this and we decided on Rosalie over Thalia, but it was pretty close.
So my options to revisit or discuss with him would be Thalia, Katrina, Violet, or something new. He likes Rosalie better than all of those so it will be a hard sell.
We both liked Persephone a bit but thought it would get shortened and did not want a name too long, I had a discussion with him about changing it to that last week and he said he would not change it to Persephone, likes Rosalie MUCH better, so I know that is out. Isis is out even though I LOVE it b/c he feels it is just too close to Isabel in spelling (not pron.)
Thalia-I went back and forth on this and we decided on Rosalie over Thalia, but it was pretty close.
So my options to revisit or discuss with him would be Thalia, Katrina, Violet, or something new. He likes Rosalie better than all of those so it will be a hard sell.
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ITA, I totally recognize that we have two names that already get mangled regularly. you are correct, Saoirse is a beast to defend but I love it so it has never caused me grief. Yet something about the southern/countryishness or hearing "Rosa Lee" just really set me off, I guess b/c it seemed harder to correct? I mean, it's not like people are "mispronouncing," IYKWIM.
I also agree that Persephone will definitely get mangled, and truncated, which was why I decided not to go down that road, we were certain it would get shortened. I want to clarify to you that I regret Isabel largely b/c it IS in the top 200 and gets confused with #1 Isabella. Schuyler I don't hear as much on boys so it has not been an issue if it is indeed w/in the top 200 I have not noticed.
Maybe I am feeding it, but I don't want to have a huge regret down the road that I didn't explore harder b/c I chalked it up to hormones.Then it will be too late. I will take your advice to heart though-i know this is how my husband feels-she's named, it's over.
I also agree that Persephone will definitely get mangled, and truncated, which was why I decided not to go down that road, we were certain it would get shortened. I want to clarify to you that I regret Isabel largely b/c it IS in the top 200 and gets confused with #1 Isabella. Schuyler I don't hear as much on boys so it has not been an issue if it is indeed w/in the top 200 I have not noticed.
Maybe I am feeding it, but I don't want to have a huge regret down the road that I didn't explore harder b/c I chalked it up to hormones.Then it will be too late. I will take your advice to heart though-i know this is how my husband feels-she's named, it's over.
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I'm just wondering if it seems southern/countryish, because you live in the South? Because I think pretty much any name said in a thick Southern accent sounds southern. If not, maybe it's just because there are a lot of southern names that use Leigh or Lee in the female form, sometimes just as a pet name.
I think Rosalie will sound different in different accents, in different places. If you say it the way you want it to be said, and keep reiterating that point then those that are close to her will say it the way you do.
However if you really don't love the name, good luck in your quest. :)
I think Rosalie will sound different in different accents, in different places. If you say it the way you want it to be said, and keep reiterating that point then those that are close to her will say it the way you do.
However if you really don't love the name, good luck in your quest. :)
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I don't live in the south but am from VA-so yes, the -lee thing does have a southern feel to it for me. I am living in MA now, and I/no one around me has a southern accent, but my MIL (in Va) was the first, of course, to call her Rosa Lee. You can imagine how long it took her to get Saoirse right!!!!!
I don't know that I love the name anymore-but my mother suggested calling her by both names. All the names I have suggested to my Dh that end in A he has vetoed-so I do feel rather stuck with it in that I suggested it and agreed to it and now he won't entertain changing it to anything but Violet. so I DO need to decide if I'd rather call her Violet, or try to call her Rosalie Violet, or just call her Rosalie.
Fwiw, I've gotten numerous compliments on her name, which may help me get though this rough patch and remember eventually why I thought it was an option!
I don't know that I love the name anymore-but my mother suggested calling her by both names. All the names I have suggested to my Dh that end in A he has vetoed-so I do feel rather stuck with it in that I suggested it and agreed to it and now he won't entertain changing it to anything but Violet. so I DO need to decide if I'd rather call her Violet, or try to call her Rosalie Violet, or just call her Rosalie.
Fwiw, I've gotten numerous compliments on her name, which may help me get though this rough patch and remember eventually why I thought it was an option!
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Seriously, if you are sure it isn't the right name for her change it. It's not going to hurt anyone as your husband has agreed that it might be a good idea to change it. She's too young to even notice. I wouldn't take it lightly or anything and make sure the name feels right this time, but if you are really not happy with Rosalie it's better to change it now than to regret it for the rest of your life!
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Hi lily, well he's agreed to talk about it, as of last night, but only with a time limit and i know he'll get annoyed quickly. He is only entertaining this topic b/c he knows I am terribly unsettled. I actually really liked the name Rosalie fine until I heard his mother butcher it, and then another, and another person over these weeks, and it got me to associating it with a mis-emphasis/tackiness. But I do agree with mirfak and roxstar that I MUST have liked it enough to name her that originally, KWIM? I also aree with you that I should not just dismiss the possibility of a name I like better if this is getting under my skin-the challenge will be finding something we both like which has been all but impossible. I just wish he would have given a little on ALL my other names. Thalia was the only other one he was kind of OK with and we both weren't in LOVE with it.
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Ditto...and in defense of Rosalie
I think Rosalie a fantastic, both unusual and very practical and versatile name. It has hovered at the top of my list for so long, I would use it in a second. I can't imagine people mispronouncing it, and if they do, I don't think you will have to repeatedly correct them as with some names.
I think Rose is a very practical nickname too if you or anyone ever feels the need to use it. I had a childhood friend name Rosemary and for me, Rose just rolls off the tongue (though she preferred Rosie).
Rosalie gives me beautiful imagery as well, of St. Guadalupe surrounded by roses, and I'm not even Catholic. I believe it is derived from the Saint's name Rosalia though. It also makes me think of divine Indian and Arabic desserts with rose water -- the fragrance and flavor is heavenly. It is the most classic flower and has so many poetic implications. Such a colorful name as well. Hope that helps you appreciate it again. If not, I understand. You want to love your daughter's name. But you should also think about the practicality of the name for your daughter's sake, as I'm sure you are.
I think Rosalie a fantastic, both unusual and very practical and versatile name. It has hovered at the top of my list for so long, I would use it in a second. I can't imagine people mispronouncing it, and if they do, I don't think you will have to repeatedly correct them as with some names.
I think Rose is a very practical nickname too if you or anyone ever feels the need to use it. I had a childhood friend name Rosemary and for me, Rose just rolls off the tongue (though she preferred Rosie).
Rosalie gives me beautiful imagery as well, of St. Guadalupe surrounded by roses, and I'm not even Catholic. I believe it is derived from the Saint's name Rosalia though. It also makes me think of divine Indian and Arabic desserts with rose water -- the fragrance and flavor is heavenly. It is the most classic flower and has so many poetic implications. Such a colorful name as well. Hope that helps you appreciate it again. If not, I understand. You want to love your daughter's name. But you should also think about the practicality of the name for your daughter's sake, as I'm sure you are.
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:) Glad to hear it. Good luck on reaching a decision.
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it could be the middle name Violet is the trouble...
Indigo Violet is very obviously goofy, but Rose Violet or even Rosalie (rosily) Violet can sound like a crayon.
In which case, since it seems to be Violet that the OP is really in love with, she should have used Violet as the first name, so-called popularity be damned. I only know two Violets; they're black ladies over fifty.
Indigo Violet is very obviously goofy, but Rose Violet or even Rosalie (rosily) Violet can sound like a crayon.
In which case, since it seems to be Violet that the OP is really in love with, she should have used Violet as the first name, so-called popularity be damned. I only know two Violets; they're black ladies over fifty.
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I agree Indigo Violet is silly, i would have gone with a different mn then, and as it is Rosalie Violet is VERY flowery and has it's own silliness that I have worried about but figured it wouldn't be said together often. Since violet was a family name (A distant great, great aunt but a family name nonetheless, which my DH really likes employ) I wanted to hang onto it, but my DH did not want to use it as a first name. So even though I was concerned about popularity-the bigger issue was that he was not sold on Violet as a first name anyway, hence our landing on Rosalie-hope that explains things a little better.
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Do you like Violet enough to make it her first name? Rosalie Violet Kelley is very pretty even though I don't care that much for Rosalie to be honest. Rosie is really cute, though.
I think you should definitely change it if you regret choosing Rosalie and your husband agrees. She's very young and it won't affect her negatively. Better change it now than regret it for the rest of your life.
The ones I like better than Rosalie are marked with a **.
Electra - just way over the top and harsh sounding
Isis - I think it's icy, cold and unattractive
Cleopatra - sorry but this is way over the top. Cleo would be nice.
Sapphira** - cute but also a bit much
Pandora** - love but it has negative associations
Georgia** - love
Gloria, Glory - dislike them both and Glory is silly, sorry
Giselle - Bundchen
India** - would never use it, it must be weird to be named after a country
Calypso** - but very over the top
Indigo - sounds masculine
Indira - really dislike this
Serafina** - but much prefer Seraphina
Thalia** - if you are worried about pronunciation issues with Rosalie DO NOT use this name. Just a warning.
Persephone - worst meaning but I like the sound
Katrina - 80s, hurricane
I have the feeling that many of the names on your list are very eccentric and over the top. I mean I like them but make sure they work in real life. Call her by all the names you consider. Scream Calypso in a supermarket. Make sure it's the right name this time ;)
How about:
Callista
Seraphine
Emmeline
Carina
I think you should definitely change it if you regret choosing Rosalie and your husband agrees. She's very young and it won't affect her negatively. Better change it now than regret it for the rest of your life.
The ones I like better than Rosalie are marked with a **.
Electra - just way over the top and harsh sounding
Isis - I think it's icy, cold and unattractive
Cleopatra - sorry but this is way over the top. Cleo would be nice.
Sapphira** - cute but also a bit much
Pandora** - love but it has negative associations
Georgia** - love
Gloria, Glory - dislike them both and Glory is silly, sorry
Giselle - Bundchen
India** - would never use it, it must be weird to be named after a country
Calypso** - but very over the top
Indigo - sounds masculine
Indira - really dislike this
Serafina** - but much prefer Seraphina
Thalia** - if you are worried about pronunciation issues with Rosalie DO NOT use this name. Just a warning.
Persephone - worst meaning but I like the sound
Katrina - 80s, hurricane
I have the feeling that many of the names on your list are very eccentric and over the top. I mean I like them but make sure they work in real life. Call her by all the names you consider. Scream Calypso in a supermarket. Make sure it's the right name this time ;)
How about:
Callista
Seraphine
Emmeline
Carina
This message was edited 4/3/2012, 7:55 AM
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Hi Lily,
I think my husband felt the same way about my names: that they were impractical and/or over-the-top. I do like Violet enough as a f.n. but am fairly certain he does not, I remember the discussion about it as a first name and he just wasn't sold. I hate Rosie b/c it makes me think of the character in the children's show Caillou (a show I have always disliked) so the nickname just wouldn't work for me, and in general, other than Cleo which I was considering for Cleopatra, I don't like to do nicknames.
He said the same things about Giselle and Gloria/Glory.
I like Seraphine a lot. I'll think about that and put it on the list if we can have this discussion. He thought Serafina was to close to Saoirse might be OK with Seraphine, (though I like the A on the end). He did not like Callista (I find it pretty but also think of Callista Flockhart) He has vetoed SO much, that is a big problem for me, it seems that Rosalie was the only name other than Thalia, which we both didn't find as fluid to say. And he agreed with you abut the pronunciation issue with Thalia, it has so many accepted pronunciations, it would be tough.
i feel like I am going in circles!
I think my husband felt the same way about my names: that they were impractical and/or over-the-top. I do like Violet enough as a f.n. but am fairly certain he does not, I remember the discussion about it as a first name and he just wasn't sold. I hate Rosie b/c it makes me think of the character in the children's show Caillou (a show I have always disliked) so the nickname just wouldn't work for me, and in general, other than Cleo which I was considering for Cleopatra, I don't like to do nicknames.
He said the same things about Giselle and Gloria/Glory.
I like Seraphine a lot. I'll think about that and put it on the list if we can have this discussion. He thought Serafina was to close to Saoirse might be OK with Seraphine, (though I like the A on the end). He did not like Callista (I find it pretty but also think of Callista Flockhart) He has vetoed SO much, that is a big problem for me, it seems that Rosalie was the only name other than Thalia, which we both didn't find as fluid to say. And he agreed with you abut the pronunciation issue with Thalia, it has so many accepted pronunciations, it would be tough.
i feel like I am going in circles!
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Yes, they are over the top, but if you love them you should use them anyway. I went to school with Aristoteles and Ceridwen and you really do get used to it! Haha I disliked Caillou as well! Rosie makes me think of a sweet little girl I once knew and that association is stronger so I still love it. Kleio is actually a full name and Clio, Cleo can be seen as spelling variants but I can understand that they seem nickname-y to most people, I first thought they were nicknames as well.
I don't think Serafina is too close to Saoirse. Yeah the association with Flockhart is unfortunate. I suggested Callista (she spells it Calista) so the association wouldn't be too strong but I guess it didn't work :P Callisto is a name I liked for a long time but it might be a bit too much.
I think Talia (which is also a legit name with a different background) might help with the pronunciation issues. I think most people would pronounce it TAH-lee-ah. Of course I don't know whether that's the pronunciation you like.
Anyway, good luck and feel free to post again, I think we'll all be glad to help. Finding the perfect name can be really difficult.
I don't think Serafina is too close to Saoirse. Yeah the association with Flockhart is unfortunate. I suggested Callista (she spells it Calista) so the association wouldn't be too strong but I guess it didn't work :P Callisto is a name I liked for a long time but it might be a bit too much.
I think Talia (which is also a legit name with a different background) might help with the pronunciation issues. I think most people would pronounce it TAH-lee-ah. Of course I don't know whether that's the pronunciation you like.
Anyway, good luck and feel free to post again, I think we'll all be glad to help. Finding the perfect name can be really difficult.
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yep, I do know Clio and Cleo are names unto themselves but they did sound nick-namey to me, and he did not like them anyway,I remember trying to sell him on those for a while. I love Cleopatra nn cleo. With baby #4, we almost went with Calliope had it been a girl, but I was never sold on it and now we both wouldn't use it. I don't like Talia too much.
TBH, Saoirse is the only girls' name i am really happy with of the 3. I love my boys' names.
I like serafina but he did veto it -so it is probably pointless to bring up any names I've already gone over as he is on a short fuse with this topic. I will make sure to compile a list if/when I am going to enter the conversation with him again.
TBH, Saoirse is the only girls' name i am really happy with of the 3. I love my boys' names.
I like serafina but he did veto it -so it is probably pointless to bring up any names I've already gone over as he is on a short fuse with this topic. I will make sure to compile a list if/when I am going to enter the conversation with him again.
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What about Caterina instead of Katrina? Or Caitria?
I like Thalia for you, don't think it's clunky in the least. But what about Mattea instead? Mattea Violet Kelley is beautiful.
Paulina Violet.
Alba Violet.
I don't think what you're experiencing is insane in the least. I think it's quite important to love, or at least really like, the name of your daughter. To me, the name wants to sound like poetry to your ear--when a child is born you are giving a gift to the world. I've had friends who took a long time to name their daughter--I think she was nearly 8 weeks old before they decided on a name. Much of this pressure is societal. If it's important to you, and it obviously is, I think you just keep working it until you get it right. As to how to get your husband on board, is there any way to gently remind him that he gets the name Kelley for each child? Or have there been any instances when something was really important to him and you had to compromise or be patient while he worked it through? I wish I could give you the gift of inner certainty and calmness about it all.
I like Thalia for you, don't think it's clunky in the least. But what about Mattea instead? Mattea Violet Kelley is beautiful.
Paulina Violet.
Alba Violet.
I don't think what you're experiencing is insane in the least. I think it's quite important to love, or at least really like, the name of your daughter. To me, the name wants to sound like poetry to your ear--when a child is born you are giving a gift to the world. I've had friends who took a long time to name their daughter--I think she was nearly 8 weeks old before they decided on a name. Much of this pressure is societal. If it's important to you, and it obviously is, I think you just keep working it until you get it right. As to how to get your husband on board, is there any way to gently remind him that he gets the name Kelley for each child? Or have there been any instances when something was really important to him and you had to compromise or be patient while he worked it through? I wish I could give you the gift of inner certainty and calmness about it all.
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I have thought about Caterina but prefer Katrina-and I dont; think he'll go for either. i can revisit Thalia, but had chosen Rosalie over it as I just felt it was easier to say.
I agree, it is a really important decision, but I had ruminated over it during the entire pregnancy (without much assistance from him other than vetoing) but still he feels like I had enough time.
I briefly considered Paulina as it was my grandmother's name, but it didn't wow me. i really hope we can talk about it more, but i feel like he thinks I got all the time I needed.
Maybe it will just be a matter of getting used to the name, or switching itI don't know but as you can see it is very unsettling to me!
I agree, it is a really important decision, but I had ruminated over it during the entire pregnancy (without much assistance from him other than vetoing) but still he feels like I had enough time.
I briefly considered Paulina as it was my grandmother's name, but it didn't wow me. i really hope we can talk about it more, but i feel like he thinks I got all the time I needed.
Maybe it will just be a matter of getting used to the name, or switching itI don't know but as you can see it is very unsettling to me!
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How about:
Claudia Violet
Mercy Violet
Sienna Violet
Katarina Violet
Thora Violet
Melanie Violet (or Melody)
Tatiana Violet
Lorelei Violet
Juniper Violet
Aurelia Violet
Amelia Violet
Danica Violet
Have you thought about using Violet / Violetta as a first name?
Claudia Violet
Mercy Violet
Sienna Violet
Katarina Violet
Thora Violet
Melanie Violet (or Melody)
Tatiana Violet
Lorelei Violet
Juniper Violet
Aurelia Violet
Amelia Violet
Danica Violet
Have you thought about using Violet / Violetta as a first name?
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Hi, I love Lorelei but I tried to use it with #1, it got vetoed, and then my sister used it. I am still upset about it. I am thinking about using Violet as her first name-yes. I also am thinkin about Katrina (not Katarina).
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aww I really like Persephone, but I see you're not leaning towards it
Indigo is nice (though I personally prefer it on a boy)
What about Saffron. I think that would go since you're considering other S names
a few other suggestions:
Liesel
Hollis
Romilly
Perdita
Saskia
Florentine
Georgiana
Jonie
Rosalin or Rosalind
Esmee
Carmella
Samia or Samara
Elin
Bronach
Thora
Veronica
Ceres
any you like? At least it should be easier now she's here because you can tell if a name suits her or not
Indigo is nice (though I personally prefer it on a boy)
What about Saffron. I think that would go since you're considering other S names
a few other suggestions:
Liesel
Hollis
Romilly
Perdita
Saskia
Florentine
Georgiana
Jonie
Rosalin or Rosalind
Esmee
Carmella
Samia or Samara
Elin
Bronach
Thora
Veronica
Ceres
any you like? At least it should be easier now she's here because you can tell if a name suits her or not
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I do like Saskia and thought about it but thought it was to many S names/ too much like Saoirse compared to Isabel....I also considered Veronica. I DO like Persephone but hate the nickname Sephie/Seffy and try to avoid anything that will get a nickname (i.e. long names)
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You can still change it fine.
Funny, I never liked Rosalie until I heard my aunt Rosalie called Rosa-Lee out loud at a funeral, and then I started liking it a lot.
Let's see...
Davina Kelley
Diana Kelley
Gwen / Gwenyth / Gwyneth Kelley
Talia Kelley
Sylvia Kelley
Zephyra Kelley
Audra Kelley
Rosamund? Rosamund Kelley
or Rosmerta? Rosmerta Kelley? That's pretty nice
Fortuna Kelley
Finola Kelley
Cordelia Kelley
Juliet Kelley
Rolanda Kelley
Ramona Kelley
Lorna Kelley
Desdemona Kelley
Roxana Kelley
Lucinda Kelley
Armida Kelley
Tryphosa Kelley
Nadira Kelley
Eileen Kelley
Eudora Kelley
Albina Kelley
Funny, I never liked Rosalie until I heard my aunt Rosalie called Rosa-Lee out loud at a funeral, and then I started liking it a lot.
Let's see...
Davina Kelley
Diana Kelley
Gwen / Gwenyth / Gwyneth Kelley
Talia Kelley
Sylvia Kelley
Zephyra Kelley
Audra Kelley
Rosamund? Rosamund Kelley
or Rosmerta? Rosmerta Kelley? That's pretty nice
Fortuna Kelley
Finola Kelley
Cordelia Kelley
Juliet Kelley
Rolanda Kelley
Ramona Kelley
Lorna Kelley
Desdemona Kelley
Roxana Kelley
Lucinda Kelley
Armida Kelley
Tryphosa Kelley
Nadira Kelley
Eileen Kelley
Eudora Kelley
Albina Kelley
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I like Diana and Zephyra, I really loved Sapphira but he felt it too close to Saoirse and he did not like it. In fact, he just doesn't like most of the names I put forth.
He feels it is too late but I'll work on it, but I have a feeling he'll win out here since I offered up Rosalie in the first place those many months ago..
He feels it is too late but I'll work on it, but I have a feeling he'll win out here since I offered up Rosalie in the first place those many months ago..
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She's 7 weeks old, that's totally fine. People will get over it.
Why not other Rose names? Any others you like? Does she not look like a Violet? I don't think Violet's going to explode in popularity any time soon, but that's just me, and this is coming from an Emily born in the 90s.
To go with Isabel, Schuyler, Saoirse, and Felix and out of the U.S. 200:
Adeline
Coralie - or will there be pronunciation issues there too?
Eliza
Genevieve
Imogen - although you'd have to have another starting with F ;)
Juniper
Matilda
Olive
Pearl
Sylvie
Tabitha
Ruby - okay inside the 200 but I think she fits so well!
Willow
Xanthe
(and there's a suburb near mine called Rosalie. Locals say RosaLEE too, I guess. It's definitely not ROsalee. I always thought that's how you say it.)
Why not other Rose names? Any others you like? Does she not look like a Violet? I don't think Violet's going to explode in popularity any time soon, but that's just me, and this is coming from an Emily born in the 90s.
To go with Isabel, Schuyler, Saoirse, and Felix and out of the U.S. 200:
Adeline
Coralie - or will there be pronunciation issues there too?
Eliza
Genevieve
Imogen - although you'd have to have another starting with F ;)
Juniper
Matilda
Olive
Pearl
Sylvie
Tabitha
Ruby - okay inside the 200 but I think she fits so well!
Willow
Xanthe
(and there's a suburb near mine called Rosalie. Locals say RosaLEE too, I guess. It's definitely not ROsalee. I always thought that's how you say it.)
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Interesting about your suburb. The only Rosalie I know is pronounced with the emphasis on the ROS, but it just goes to show anything goes! As for other Rose names-only one I like is Rosalie.
Maybe I should just go with violet-it doesn't flow quite as easily and he didn't care for it as much, but it would be easier to sell than a full change.
My current hope would be to change it to Katrina, but he is not keen on that. On your list, I love Willow but he felt it had a bit of a trendy/hippy sound so he nixed it.
I am lad you don't think it is a bi deal to change it, everyone else in my family seems to.
Maybe I should just go with violet-it doesn't flow quite as easily and he didn't care for it as much, but it would be easier to sell than a full change.
My current hope would be to change it to Katrina, but he is not keen on that. On your list, I love Willow but he felt it had a bit of a trendy/hippy sound so he nixed it.
I am lad you don't think it is a bi deal to change it, everyone else in my family seems to.
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Violet is lovely and I don't think its relative popularity is that big a deal. And it would be easier just to flip the names around, sure.
On the other hand...
I don't know, I think Rosalie is pretty pronounced both ways. Plus it's only a difference in syllable stress, right? To me that's not as dramatic between Caroline / Carolyn or something like Maya being pronounced MAY-uh instead of MY-uh (or vice versa). The only people who are going to mispronounce it on a regular basis will be strangers. Is seven weeks not long enough to warm up to beautiful Rosalie? Your call. :)
On the other hand...
I don't know, I think Rosalie is pretty pronounced both ways. Plus it's only a difference in syllable stress, right? To me that's not as dramatic between Caroline / Carolyn or something like Maya being pronounced MAY-uh instead of MY-uh (or vice versa). The only people who are going to mispronounce it on a regular basis will be strangers. Is seven weeks not long enough to warm up to beautiful Rosalie? Your call. :)
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You are right, the issue of stress is not as dramatic as a letter change, it is more the issue of it's sounding as though people are saying it as two names, just putting the emphasis there on LEE. I know almost all names get mispronounced, but for some reason this sounds like butchering to my ear in a way that makes me cringe/turns it from pretty to tacky even though it is not even a different letter, just an issue of stress!
Maybe I do need more time to warm up to it, and jsut deal with the fact that this will occasionally happen. Everyone seems too like it when we mention it-but I hate to pass by an opportunity to "get it right." Violet is certainly the other option, it may not gain as mcuh popularity as I think.
Maybe I do need more time to warm up to it, and jsut deal with the fact that this will occasionally happen. Everyone seems too like it when we mention it-but I hate to pass by an opportunity to "get it right." Violet is certainly the other option, it may not gain as mcuh popularity as I think.
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First of all let me say that I really like Rosalie but I already adore Rosa - was that not an option? Where are you located? (so I know what top 200 to stay out of)
Here's my first stab at it...
Willa
Greta
Aria
Dahlia
Saffron
Jemima
Gemma
Linnea
Freya
Philippa
Katya
Calista
Nadia
Allegra
Elettra
Petra
Priscilla
Farah
Melinda
Jordana
Tallulah
Jessamine
Annika
Lucinda
Irina
Elina
Leora
Odessa
Gabrielle
Cordelia / Delia
Delilah
Dinah
Octavia
Renata
Marceline
Morgana
Here's my first stab at it...
Willa
Greta
Aria
Dahlia
Saffron
Jemima
Gemma
Linnea
Freya
Philippa
Katya
Calista
Nadia
Allegra
Elettra
Petra
Priscilla
Farah
Melinda
Jordana
Tallulah
Jessamine
Annika
Lucinda
Irina
Elina
Leora
Odessa
Gabrielle
Cordelia / Delia
Delilah
Dinah
Octavia
Renata
Marceline
Morgana
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HI-I am in the US (Mass) I don't like Rosa, but do like
many of the ones you mentioned-problem is, he vetoed almost all of them. I like Elettra, and it is close to electra- maybe he'd go for that but I doubt it. I love Nadia but it is my niece's name. He didn't like Annika, Morgana, Tallulah, or Gemma, as I recall, as they were ones I proposed. But I will hang onto these ideas if I can et us to discuss this.
many of the ones you mentioned-problem is, he vetoed almost all of them. I like Elettra, and it is close to electra- maybe he'd go for that but I doubt it. I love Nadia but it is my niece's name. He didn't like Annika, Morgana, Tallulah, or Gemma, as I recall, as they were ones I proposed. But I will hang onto these ideas if I can et us to discuss this.
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