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HelpRe: Predictions for SSA list 2017
in reply to a message by Rachel Shaina
— Surname trend will reach its peak and will probably start slipping a bit, but names like Harper and Hudson will hold on a bit longer.
— Jacob and Sophia will drop after a long run at the top, but will probably stay in the top 100 for another 10-15 years.
— Haven will rise for girls and chart for boys.
— Cosette (and related names) will keep rising, will reach the top 20 within 5-7 years.
— -aden names will keep dropping into oblivion (one can only hope).
*previously posted as summitseeker*
--hike more / worry less--
— Jacob and Sophia will drop after a long run at the top, but will probably stay in the top 100 for another 10-15 years.
— Haven will rise for girls and chart for boys.
— Cosette (and related names) will keep rising, will reach the top 20 within 5-7 years.
— -aden names will keep dropping into oblivion (one can only hope).
*previously posted as summitseeker*
--hike more / worry less--
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Raiden and possibly Zayden seem to be exempt from dropping with the rest of them, though I guess it could turn around-- last year it was Raiden and Hayden (f) that weren't dropping.
I don't think Haven will chart for boys but I'd definitely like if it did.
I think it's wishful thinking to hope the surname trend is going away any time soon.
I don't think Haven will chart for boys but I'd definitely like if it did.
I think it's wishful thinking to hope the surname trend is going away any time soon.
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I really hope -ayden names fall off the charts. They aren’t individually bad names — heck, I have one — but they’re overused and were such a big trend that they’re going to seem dated as heck in a few decades. I guess if some stay popular, though, then maybe they won’t seem dated in the future?
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Cosette
Cosette top 20 in 5-7 years? That’s bold! I’d be fascinated and kind of delighted if it proved true, but I’m skeptical. Names don’t really rise that fast on the charts.
Cosette top 20 in 5-7 years? That’s bold! I’d be fascinated and kind of delighted if it proved true, but I’m skeptical. Names don’t really rise that fast on the charts.
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Harper
Did anything pop culture happen with Harper? Aside from author Harper Lee (who became famous 60 years ago) I can’t think of any famous associations with that name.
BTW I didn’t realize Harper wasn’t in the top 1000 before recently. I grew up with a few and I’m in my early 30s. I also know someone named Harper who is older than me.
Did anything pop culture happen with Harper? Aside from author Harper Lee (who became famous 60 years ago) I can’t think of any famous associations with that name.
BTW I didn’t realize Harper wasn’t in the top 1000 before recently. I grew up with a few and I’m in my early 30s. I also know someone named Harper who is older than me.
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Several celebrities used it for their babies from 2008-2012 (http://www.namecandy.com/celebrity-baby-names/search/baby/harper). While none of them probably *made* it popular, the more of them that used it, the more people heard it (on that page I linked, only Shonda Rimes had a baby Harper before it charted [not counting the one born in 1972 obviously]).
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Atticus also charted and started its huge increase around the same time as Harper (2004). I think that was also partially helped along by celebrities but I also wonder if it was that the generations that all basically read 'To Kill A Mockingbird' in school were starting to have kids?
Like my Dad who went to was in high school in Australia in the 70s didn't read TKAM in school (he read it himself later) but my Mum, who graduated in 88 did read it and by then it was just a staple in high schools. Some celebrities use it and then people familiar with the book and its message are like, "Oh, that's a great namesake- I'm totally naming my kid this because TKAM is my *favorite* book," even if it isn't...and maybe just because it is one of the few books they actually read but it totally makes them look so "woke" and "anti-racism". Add in that Harper is similar to a name like Taylor but seems fresh and not dated and it was a perfect storm for an exponential rise.
Like my Dad who went to was in high school in Australia in the 70s didn't read TKAM in school (he read it himself later) but my Mum, who graduated in 88 did read it and by then it was just a staple in high schools. Some celebrities use it and then people familiar with the book and its message are like, "Oh, that's a great namesake- I'm totally naming my kid this because TKAM is my *favorite* book," even if it isn't...and maybe just because it is one of the few books they actually read but it totally makes them look so "woke" and "anti-racism". Add in that Harper is similar to a name like Taylor but seems fresh and not dated and it was a perfect storm for an exponential rise.
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I think you could be right. I read somewhere that Emma surged in Britain in the 70s a few years after Emma by Jane Austen was a set text for A-Levels. Although Emma was probably due a comeback around then anyway, so maybe it's not as easy to prove as with something unusual like Harper, but it could be a factor.
We did Frankenstein for A-Levels. Not sure that has influenced many names! We also did I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou and that could be one of the influences on the popularity of Maya.
We did Frankenstein for A-Levels. Not sure that has influenced many names! We also did I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou and that could be one of the influences on the popularity of Maya.
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I had no idea there were so many celebrity child Harpers! The only one I was aware of is Harper Beckham (born 2011) which probably explains why the name became popular here in 2012 and is now in the top 50 (when surnames as first names for girls is generally pretty rare).
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And the thing is that Harper Lee chose to publish "To Kill A Mockingbird" using her middle name and last name, eliminating her first, only because she was afraid that her first name, Nelle, would be continually mispronounced as NELL-ee, when it was actually NELL. It wasn't some endorsement of the use of Harper on girls! Ugh.
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