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in reply to a message by Nanaea
Okay, perhaps this is what you may be looking for. (But please bear in mind what I wrote about so-called "family shields" in my earlier posting.)
This comes from a book titled: *What's in a Name: Surnames of America* by LaReina Rule (author of *Name Your Baby*) and William K. Hammond.
According to this book, the heraldic shield for the Ross Family consists of the following:
"Red background, three rampant silver lions."
-- Nanaea
This comes from a book titled: *What's in a Name: Surnames of America* by LaReina Rule (author of *Name Your Baby*) and William K. Hammond.
According to this book, the heraldic shield for the Ross Family consists of the following:
"Red background, three rampant silver lions."
-- Nanaea
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Hey, there's even one for "Lord Daividh"!
According to the same book, Daividh, your family's heraldic shield would consist of the following:
"Black background, three silver cross bars."
-- Nanaea
According to the same book, Daividh, your family's heraldic shield would consist of the following:
"Black background, three silver cross bars."
-- Nanaea
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Just thought of something else that shows how silly this coat-of-arms business is.
When I was a teen (reign of William III, I think), my mother won a coat of arms plaque of our family name in some sort of phone contest.
It was nicely rendered, a wooden plaque with "Marshall" shield and crest, green and yellow with a red something (lion? griffon?) on it. Mom displayed it prominently, being an Irish lass whose own family arms, if they had 'em, would've sported a withered potato on a field of peat.
Trouble was, I found out years later that it was the coat of arms of William Marshal, respected advisor to several English kings around 1200. One of the few upstanding medieval guys I'd have liked to be associated with, but unfortunately one whose seven sons all died without robust male issue. (Bummer.)
So the chances of our having any connection with that plaque were about like Owyda's chances of an invite to Nan and John's for the Super Bowl. Sure glad we didn't pay for it, but lots of people buy something similar every day, and essentially are getting ripped off.
When I was a teen (reign of William III, I think), my mother won a coat of arms plaque of our family name in some sort of phone contest.
It was nicely rendered, a wooden plaque with "Marshall" shield and crest, green and yellow with a red something (lion? griffon?) on it. Mom displayed it prominently, being an Irish lass whose own family arms, if they had 'em, would've sported a withered potato on a field of peat.
Trouble was, I found out years later that it was the coat of arms of William Marshal, respected advisor to several English kings around 1200. One of the few upstanding medieval guys I'd have liked to be associated with, but unfortunately one whose seven sons all died without robust male issue. (Bummer.)
So the chances of our having any connection with that plaque were about like Owyda's chances of an invite to Nan and John's for the Super Bowl. Sure glad we didn't pay for it, but lots of people buy something similar every day, and essentially are getting ripped off.
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"So the chances of our having any connection with that plaque were about like Owyda's chances of an invite to Nan and John's for the Super Bowl."
@@@@ You have such an entertaining way of turning a phrase, Daividh. :) Actually, Owyda stands a good chance of being invited to our place for the Super Bowl -- the "Super Bowl" being, in this case, a communal food dish for eight, ravenous, piranha-chomping little dogs. Eh, run Owyda through the ol' meat grinder and the dogs won't know the difference between her and kibble.
And, just because I feel like being obnoxiously self-indulgent about my "children" right now, I'm going to give you a current list of their names! :)
Dashiell (our oldest, a wirehair fox terrier. All the rest are miniature pinschers)
Loki
Bartleby
The Princess (my only girl, who beats the crap out of her "brothers")
Shadow
Reggie Van Dough
Teivel
Rocky (our latest rescue, and one we've decided to keep, like the rest above. I really dislike his name, though. Any suggestions for a change would be appreciated.)
If you remember Pwcca, he was successfully adopted out awhile back.
-- Nanaea
@@@@ You have such an entertaining way of turning a phrase, Daividh. :) Actually, Owyda stands a good chance of being invited to our place for the Super Bowl -- the "Super Bowl" being, in this case, a communal food dish for eight, ravenous, piranha-chomping little dogs. Eh, run Owyda through the ol' meat grinder and the dogs won't know the difference between her and kibble.
And, just because I feel like being obnoxiously self-indulgent about my "children" right now, I'm going to give you a current list of their names! :)
Dashiell (our oldest, a wirehair fox terrier. All the rest are miniature pinschers)
Loki
Bartleby
The Princess (my only girl, who beats the crap out of her "brothers")
Shadow
Reggie Van Dough
Teivel
Rocky (our latest rescue, and one we've decided to keep, like the rest above. I really dislike his name, though. Any suggestions for a change would be appreciated.)
If you remember Pwcca, he was successfully adopted out awhile back.
-- Nanaea
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Rocky renamed.
One approach would be to use a translation of Rocky is some other language, eg:
Rocoso (Spanish)
Rocheux (French)
Felsig (German)
Roccioso (Italian)
Rochoso (Portugese)
Roko (Esperanto)
Petrodes (Greek)
I also anagrammed "Rocky Raccoon" -- a Beatles song from the White Album -- which yielded "Cranky Rococo". Depending on Rocky's character, this may be suitable.
One approach would be to use a translation of Rocky is some other language, eg:
Rocoso (Spanish)
Rocheux (French)
Felsig (German)
Roccioso (Italian)
Rochoso (Portugese)
Roko (Esperanto)
Petrodes (Greek)
I also anagrammed "Rocky Raccoon" -- a Beatles song from the White Album -- which yielded "Cranky Rococo". Depending on Rocky's character, this may be suitable.
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...you can also consider revisiting Laelaps, for which you have already composed a song!
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Thanks for the suggestions! I was thinking of maybe just expanding on the name "Rocky", and calling him: "Rocket J. Minpin" (sorta like "Rocket J. Squirrel" of Rocky & Bullwinkle fame), but I dunno. It somehow doesn't sound demonic enough for one of my imps. :)
-- Nanaea
-- Nanaea
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Nanaea
I know this isn't including "Rocky" in it, but how about "Brimstone"? Or have you already named one of your canine companions Brimstone? CKBC
Phyllis
I know this isn't including "Rocky" in it, but how about "Brimstone"? Or have you already named one of your canine companions Brimstone? CKBC
Phyllis
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"Brimstone"? Hey... I LIKE IT! :) And it even anagrams well into the following people-type names:
Ben Mortis
Mort Ibsen
Tom Brines
Tim Berson
Bret Simon
And also: "Tomb-Risen", which makes a cool name for a rock band! :)
Now I've just got to convince John that "Brimstone" is a cool name for the little guy, as John's not too keen on it.
-- Nanaea
Ben Mortis
Mort Ibsen
Tom Brines
Tim Berson
Bret Simon
And also: "Tomb-Risen", which makes a cool name for a rock band! :)
Now I've just got to convince John that "Brimstone" is a cool name for the little guy, as John's not too keen on it.
-- Nanaea
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Nanaea
Just tell him it's better than this name: Fufu. I swear I had to deal with a rottweiler with that name (no wonder he tried to do me in, and all I did was walk past him.) Maybe I should try to convince his owner to change his (the owner's) name to perhaps Canine Chow? Or perhaps Liverwurst?
BTW, Fufu are African yam puffs.
Phyllis
Just tell him it's better than this name: Fufu. I swear I had to deal with a rottweiler with that name (no wonder he tried to do me in, and all I did was walk past him.) Maybe I should try to convince his owner to change his (the owner's) name to perhaps Canine Chow? Or perhaps Liverwurst?
BTW, Fufu are African yam puffs.
Phyllis
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Now, I can see someone naming a badass rottweiler "Mofo" -- but *Fufu*? I wouldn't even pin a name like that on one of my little miniature pinschers -- the indignity of such a name can turn a good dog BAD. :)
We've had to discard "Brimstone" as a possible new name for "Rocky", because John just couldn't warm up to it. We may even be adopting Rocky out -- we're still undecided. Today he gets his final veterinary checkup before we can certify him to be ready for a new home, and we'll probably decide then.
It's always rough giving up one of these little guys -- which is probably why we wound up with so many. But if we don't adopt them out to good homes, then we won't be able to take in others in need of rescue. Ah well! :)
-- Nanaea
We've had to discard "Brimstone" as a possible new name for "Rocky", because John just couldn't warm up to it. We may even be adopting Rocky out -- we're still undecided. Today he gets his final veterinary checkup before we can certify him to be ready for a new home, and we'll probably decide then.
It's always rough giving up one of these little guys -- which is probably why we wound up with so many. But if we don't adopt them out to good homes, then we won't be able to take in others in need of rescue. Ah well! :)
-- Nanaea
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Nanaea
I can empathize. I'm helping care for a feral cat colony, and I wish I could adopt every cat I've encountered, but... :) I wish some of the *people* who buy or adopt kittens or cats would remember all the care that these wonderful *furry people* require as they get older and no longer *cute*, as well as making sure every member of the *fur squad* has a loving home. I admit that they (the feral colony members) have a place, but some of them were just thrown out like yesterday's garbage. Two of the members are probably purebred pets, but I don't know. If I can get my hands on their former *owner*, ffa. ;) Some of the felines come right up to people, so they were pets at some time, not familiar with *street*. I think you can understand, Nanaea (unfortunately).
Phyllis
I can empathize. I'm helping care for a feral cat colony, and I wish I could adopt every cat I've encountered, but... :) I wish some of the *people* who buy or adopt kittens or cats would remember all the care that these wonderful *furry people* require as they get older and no longer *cute*, as well as making sure every member of the *fur squad* has a loving home. I admit that they (the feral colony members) have a place, but some of them were just thrown out like yesterday's garbage. Two of the members are probably purebred pets, but I don't know. If I can get my hands on their former *owner*, ffa. ;) Some of the felines come right up to people, so they were pets at some time, not familiar with *street*. I think you can understand, Nanaea (unfortunately).
Phyllis
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Nanaea
I thought you might like an update on "my" feral colony.
Milk Chocolate (a Siamese) got her very own cart last Thursday. Some jerk shot her while I was away and she's now paralized. She seems to be coping with the contraption, racing around the vet's office. The person who shot her should be grateful I wasn't there when s/he did it. I would've used buckshot on him/her. She (Milk Chocolate) and the other purebred might be adopted by one of the other clients at the vet (if not the vet herself).
What are the ramefications of a few curses placed on people who willingly abuse defenseless animals? (I was thinking also about a puppy that somebody hung [in a tree with a shoelace] around St. Patrick's Day. His name is Paddy, and he's doing fine now.)
Phyllis
I thought you might like an update on "my" feral colony.
Milk Chocolate (a Siamese) got her very own cart last Thursday. Some jerk shot her while I was away and she's now paralized. She seems to be coping with the contraption, racing around the vet's office. The person who shot her should be grateful I wasn't there when s/he did it. I would've used buckshot on him/her. She (Milk Chocolate) and the other purebred might be adopted by one of the other clients at the vet (if not the vet herself).
What are the ramefications of a few curses placed on people who willingly abuse defenseless animals? (I was thinking also about a puppy that somebody hung [in a tree with a shoelace] around St. Patrick's Day. His name is Paddy, and he's doing fine now.)
Phyllis
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"What are the ramefications of a few curses placed on people who willingly abuse defenseless animals?"
@@@@ That person has just bought him/herself a shitload of negative energy from Yours Truly. And, being a Satanist rather than a Wiccan, I have absolutely NO hesitations or ethical "brakes" brought on by any beliefs that the things I do will come back at me "threefold".
When I get truly angry, I am viciousness unleashed. No joke.
-- Nanaea
@@@@ That person has just bought him/herself a shitload of negative energy from Yours Truly. And, being a Satanist rather than a Wiccan, I have absolutely NO hesitations or ethical "brakes" brought on by any beliefs that the things I do will come back at me "threefold".
When I get truly angry, I am viciousness unleashed. No joke.
-- Nanaea
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Nanaea
I was thinking about the *three by three* where one gets it back not just threefold, but ninefold. That's what worries me. If I got back ninefold what I'm thinking of, well, let's just say that it won't be even remotely pretty.
By the way, Milk Chocolate has a new home. The vet adopted her and three of the other members of the colony. We're trying to find her last litter and reunite the whole family. Luckily, only three kittens.
Phyllis
I was thinking about the *three by three* where one gets it back not just threefold, but ninefold. That's what worries me. If I got back ninefold what I'm thinking of, well, let's just say that it won't be even remotely pretty.
By the way, Milk Chocolate has a new home. The vet adopted her and three of the other members of the colony. We're trying to find her last litter and reunite the whole family. Luckily, only three kittens.
Phyllis
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Nanaea
I metaphorically said *screw it* and sent what I call a "ten to tenth" ("sending" the pond scum everything they sent back ten to the tenth power, and anything else they do negative will return to them ten to the tenth power). I have it attached to the colony.
The kittens are with their mother, but another cat joined the colony. Thrown out like trash, but the "ten to tenth" is floating around, waiting for the cat's former human companion.
Phyllis (Sidhe Uaine aka Mad As Satan's Abode)
I metaphorically said *screw it* and sent what I call a "ten to tenth" ("sending" the pond scum everything they sent back ten to the tenth power, and anything else they do negative will return to them ten to the tenth power). I have it attached to the colony.
The kittens are with their mother, but another cat joined the colony. Thrown out like trash, but the "ten to tenth" is floating around, waiting for the cat's former human companion.
Phyllis (Sidhe Uaine aka Mad As Satan's Abode)
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A really interesting mix of names, a la Angelrose and Zelda Maria. I get all the name origins except Teivel (possibly a relative of Tevye's or that Kosher cartoon mouse's?).
Probably a stupid question, but are they all house dogs, and how do you handle the uh, sanitary logistics of so many if so?
Probably a stupid question, but are they all house dogs, and how do you handle the uh, sanitary logistics of so many if so?
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"Teivel" is Yiddish for "devil". ;)
Yes, they're all house dogs -- and well housebroken because minpins are a fastidiously clean breed. We also have a back-garden where they go outdoors to do their bizznizz -- which gets poop-patroled on a regular basis.
Geeze louise, Daividh, how long has it been since you owned a dog? :)
-- Nanaea
Yes, they're all house dogs -- and well housebroken because minpins are a fastidiously clean breed. We also have a back-garden where they go outdoors to do their bizznizz -- which gets poop-patroled on a regular basis.
Geeze louise, Daividh, how long has it been since you owned a dog? :)
-- Nanaea
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Our elderly Golden died (cancer) 2 days before Christmas 1999. A sweetheart, but like having a small kid in what it did to your weekend/overnight mobility. Two months later we hit the shelter and acquired the first of our two (strictly inside) cats.
Considering how these two run the house and are always underfoot, I wasn't sure if anyone could manage 8 critters who needed let out or "walkies" on a regular basis. But I guess it can be done...
Considering how these two run the house and are always underfoot, I wasn't sure if anyone could manage 8 critters who needed let out or "walkies" on a regular basis. But I guess it can be done...
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And here I always thought it was a miner's pick, an eviction notice, and a pint of bitter on a shady background. We be a classy bloodline...
The closest the Marshalls (or Cargills before 'em) ever came to "entitlement" in the heraldic sense was in the 1840's when my ggg-grandad gave one of his sons the first and middle names of "George Keith" to brown-nose the local laird (of the same name). Don't know if it worked but it must have seemed suspicious, because the name "George" never appeared in our family before or since and nobody else in the line was given a middle name of any sort for another 75 years.
The closest the Marshalls (or Cargills before 'em) ever came to "entitlement" in the heraldic sense was in the 1840's when my ggg-grandad gave one of his sons the first and middle names of "George Keith" to brown-nose the local laird (of the same name). Don't know if it worked but it must have seemed suspicious, because the name "George" never appeared in our family before or since and nobody else in the line was given a middle name of any sort for another 75 years.
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