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in reply to a message by Phyllis
Hi, Phyllis. I know about athames -- and that their use is primarily symbolic. The point I was attempting to make, is that the Sigil of Baphomet pentagram is also merely a symbol. :) What's more, a pentagram is far less likely to cause physical damage to a person than a dagger or a sword when in the wrong hands.
As for the guy who tried to run over the cat and got in a car accident... Let's hope he survived. So he can have another accident. And another. And another... (One very practical reason why the vast majority of Satanists are opposed to capital punishment.)
I see you gave young Selwyn the URLs to a couple of excellent sites on Judaism. Another outstanding site to recommend is:
www.religioustolerance.org
I was halfway inclined to give that URL to the lady in the dealers' room whom I'd asked about the pentagrams. She would've done well to read the article on "Religious Satanism" and learned a few things. :)
http://www.religioustolerance.org/satanism.htm
-- Nanaea
As for the guy who tried to run over the cat and got in a car accident... Let's hope he survived. So he can have another accident. And another. And another... (One very practical reason why the vast majority of Satanists are opposed to capital punishment.)
I see you gave young Selwyn the URLs to a couple of excellent sites on Judaism. Another outstanding site to recommend is:
www.religioustolerance.org
I was halfway inclined to give that URL to the lady in the dealers' room whom I'd asked about the pentagrams. She would've done well to read the article on "Religious Satanism" and learned a few things. :)
http://www.religioustolerance.org/satanism.htm
-- Nanaea
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Nanaea
I printed out the stuff I found on the website that you recommended and I'm going to show it to my Wicca and Neopaganism instructor tonight. I don't recall if this is one she also recommended this semester or not: if not, then she might want to take a look before recommending it to the rest of the class.
Go raibh maith agat (thanks)
Phyllis
I printed out the stuff I found on the website that you recommended and I'm going to show it to my Wicca and Neopaganism instructor tonight. I don't recall if this is one she also recommended this semester or not: if not, then she might want to take a look before recommending it to the rest of the class.
Go raibh maith agat (thanks)
Phyllis
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Wow, I just read the article on satanism. I really learned alot. Is your husband a satanist as well? At first, when I saw you post that you were a satanist, I thought you were kidding, but now I can better understand how such a nice person can be a satanist. They are not evil. I hope you don't take offense to that, Nan, I really do mean that nicely. :)
Sarahjeanne
Sarahjeanne
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Glad you read the article, Sarahjeanne! No, I didn't take offense. I don't get offended that easily -- and certainly not by people whom I already consider to be cool, such as you. :)
My husband happens to be a Christian -- Church of England. He's cool, too. :)
-- Nanaea
My husband happens to be a Christian -- Church of England. He's cool, too. :)
-- Nanaea
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I'm glad that you have a cool husband! Maybe someday I'll get one:)
Thanks, Nan. I really did learn alot from that. It's amazing what stereotypes can do to things. AND people :p
Sarahjeanne
Thanks, Nan. I really did learn alot from that. It's amazing what stereotypes can do to things. AND people :p
Sarahjeanne
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"I'm glad that you have a cool husband! Maybe someday I'll get one:)"
@@@@ You and Phyllis will both find someone cool eventually. You know that old saying, "You've got to be a friend to have a friend"? Well, it's also true that you've got to be cool to get cool. And you both are. :)
"Thanks, Nan. I really did learn alot from that. It's amazing what stereotypes can do to things. AND people :p"
@@@@ It's limited thinking that leads to stereotyping. Satanists aren't "evil" -- just "untamed". ;)
-- Nanaea
@@@@ You and Phyllis will both find someone cool eventually. You know that old saying, "You've got to be a friend to have a friend"? Well, it's also true that you've got to be cool to get cool. And you both are. :)
"Thanks, Nan. I really did learn alot from that. It's amazing what stereotypes can do to things. AND people :p"
@@@@ It's limited thinking that leads to stereotyping. Satanists aren't "evil" -- just "untamed". ;)
-- Nanaea
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Nanaea and Sarahjeanne
Ditto with witches and (most) neopagans. I attended a small ritual and I felt less inhibited being "sky-clad" when a number of those involved were too. Nobody cared what anybody else looked like.
Before you ask, no, the flails were left behind (it wasn't a Gardnerian ritual).
Phyllis
Ditto with witches and (most) neopagans. I attended a small ritual and I felt less inhibited being "sky-clad" when a number of those involved were too. Nobody cared what anybody else looked like.
Before you ask, no, the flails were left behind (it wasn't a Gardnerian ritual).
Phyllis
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Yep, ditto with witches and most neopagans. Some neopagans are a *little* bit tamed, though. :) That whole concept of worrying over the things that you do coming back at you "threefold" doesn't exist at all in Satanism.
That's not to say that Satanists don't have ethics, of course. It's just that we feel that, as intelligent adults, we already *know* the difference between what's right and what's wrong -- and we act accordingly. We don't act (or refrain from acting) out of a fear of divine retribution.
Of course, I'm not saying that people who aren't Satanists act rightly only out of fear of divine retribution -- because Satanists obviously aren't the only people capable of acting on their conscience. I'm just saying that Satanists aren't "tamed" in any way by such religious conventions.
I know what you mean about not feeling self-conscious about being skyclad when around others who are also doing it. In my pre-married days, I used to be a regular visitor to a nude beach on Fire Island. However, I wouldn't be likely to suddenly start disrobing at a regular beach. People would think you're craaaaaaazy (or something else!) if you did that. LOL!
-- Nanaea
That's not to say that Satanists don't have ethics, of course. It's just that we feel that, as intelligent adults, we already *know* the difference between what's right and what's wrong -- and we act accordingly. We don't act (or refrain from acting) out of a fear of divine retribution.
Of course, I'm not saying that people who aren't Satanists act rightly only out of fear of divine retribution -- because Satanists obviously aren't the only people capable of acting on their conscience. I'm just saying that Satanists aren't "tamed" in any way by such religious conventions.
I know what you mean about not feeling self-conscious about being skyclad when around others who are also doing it. In my pre-married days, I used to be a regular visitor to a nude beach on Fire Island. However, I wouldn't be likely to suddenly start disrobing at a regular beach. People would think you're craaaaaaazy (or something else!) if you did that. LOL!
-- Nanaea
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"It's limited thinking that leads to steroetyping. Satanists aren't "evil" -- just "untamed".;)
@@@@ I like that!! I may have to join the "dark side", I often find myself doing things I shouldn't. And I love it! :)
Sarahjeanne
@@@@ I like that!! I may have to join the "dark side", I often find myself doing things I shouldn't. And I love it! :)
Sarahjeanne
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Yanna, you fledging satanic Greek you :P
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It's all part of my plan, everytime you turn around, I'm a different person! You'll never know the real me! Wasn't there a movie like this? The Saint...ohhh, saint...maybe I'll be a saint now, I need a name!!:p
Sarahjeanne
Sarahjeanne
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hmmmm make it mean "sensual creature" :P and while youre being a saint dont forget to wipe your nose cuz it is often stuffed and your armpits need a good dose of vaseline
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A saint? Well I guess a Tinkerbell tattoo in the small of one's back can make a person heavenly :P
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Nanaea and Sarahjeanne
Last I heard, the flipped convertable victim is still in intensive care. I guess it goes to show that flipped convertables, cement/asphalt parking lots and brick buildings don't mix.
Another website you might be interested in is Holy Smoke (http://www.holysmoke.com.) True, it mainly deals with Wicca and Neopaganism, but it touches on a number of others. There's another site that I can't remember the address for right now, but I should have it by Thursday.
Also, concerning Sarahjeanne's comments about a cool husband: Ditto here.
Phyllis
Last I heard, the flipped convertable victim is still in intensive care. I guess it goes to show that flipped convertables, cement/asphalt parking lots and brick buildings don't mix.
Another website you might be interested in is Holy Smoke (http://www.holysmoke.com.) True, it mainly deals with Wicca and Neopaganism, but it touches on a number of others. There's another site that I can't remember the address for right now, but I should have it by Thursday.
Also, concerning Sarahjeanne's comments about a cool husband: Ditto here.
Phyllis
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Guys
It's Holy Smoke (http://www.holysmoke.org). The other is if you're interested in some movie. Sorry. :)
Phyllis
Guys
It's Holy Smoke (http://www.holysmoke.org). The other is if you're interested in some movie. Sorry. :)
Phyllis
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