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in reply to a message by Andy
Hello Andy!
Thanks for your answer! I agree that the two meanings could be mingled, since the dove is a symbol of good, purity, and so on. I've also just remembered that my dad told me his grandmother went both by the names Tauba and Tova.
Anyway, you seem to know *a lot* about Yiddish and Hebrew (the Baradin question) stuff! That's awesome! Are you Jewish, or just interested in the languages? I'm Jewish. :)
Thanks for your answer! I agree that the two meanings could be mingled, since the dove is a symbol of good, purity, and so on. I've also just remembered that my dad told me his grandmother went both by the names Tauba and Tova.
Anyway, you seem to know *a lot* about Yiddish and Hebrew (the Baradin question) stuff! That's awesome! Are you Jewish, or just interested in the languages? I'm Jewish. :)
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Hi, Claire!
No,I'm not Jewish, just interested in Judaism. I studied biblical Hebrew and took some Ivrith courses (but this was 20 years ago and unfortunately I can't speak it any more). I even took one class in Aramaic, but all I can remember is the Hebrew word "zikukim dinur" for "fireworks" which is a loan word from Aramaic.
I've been singing Hebrew and Yiddish songs for a number of years, so I know a bit of Yiddish (it is quite similar to German, but too many Slavic words in it which I don't understand).
I haven't come across a good Jewish name book, do you know one? SO with all non biblical Jewish names I'm sort of guessing.
How is your Hebrew? Did you learn it at school?
Andy ;—)
No,I'm not Jewish, just interested in Judaism. I studied biblical Hebrew and took some Ivrith courses (but this was 20 years ago and unfortunately I can't speak it any more). I even took one class in Aramaic, but all I can remember is the Hebrew word "zikukim dinur" for "fireworks" which is a loan word from Aramaic.
I've been singing Hebrew and Yiddish songs for a number of years, so I know a bit of Yiddish (it is quite similar to German, but too many Slavic words in it which I don't understand).
I haven't come across a good Jewish name book, do you know one? SO with all non biblical Jewish names I'm sort of guessing.
How is your Hebrew? Did you learn it at school?
Andy ;—)
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Wow, Hebrew and even Aramaic. I'm jealous now lol
I'm a totally bad at Hebrew. The only words I know are from the prayers (well, from the one I understand like the Shema Israel), the first names (Rahel = ewe for example) and the words you use a lot as a kid (animals names, food...). I never took lessons, I learned by listening to family members talking, especially when I was visiting them in Israel.
I went to a Jewish school only once a week (of course I went to a "French" school 5 days a week lol) and they didn't teach Hebrew but the Bible and the most important principles of Jewish law (kosher food, morality...). I left after my bat mitzvah (12 years old). Many, many kids do, especially girls.
I'm better at Yiddish and Judeo Spanish though, because it is close to languages I know (German) or understand (Spanish) and because my family taught me a bit.
I love Jewish songs. I listen to them a lot! I think they're gorgeous.
Unfortunately I don't know any great Jewish names book. I would like one too. One day I asked my mom why didn't even own one, and she answered me: "Because we don't need one: in our family we give the same names again and again" LOL
How come you're so interested in Judaism? I have tried to learn a bit about Christianism myself and I took Latin lessons (at school in a totally non religious context), but it doesn't seem to compare with your interest!
I'm a totally bad at Hebrew. The only words I know are from the prayers (well, from the one I understand like the Shema Israel), the first names (Rahel = ewe for example) and the words you use a lot as a kid (animals names, food...). I never took lessons, I learned by listening to family members talking, especially when I was visiting them in Israel.
I went to a Jewish school only once a week (of course I went to a "French" school 5 days a week lol) and they didn't teach Hebrew but the Bible and the most important principles of Jewish law (kosher food, morality...). I left after my bat mitzvah (12 years old). Many, many kids do, especially girls.
I'm better at Yiddish and Judeo Spanish though, because it is close to languages I know (German) or understand (Spanish) and because my family taught me a bit.
I love Jewish songs. I listen to them a lot! I think they're gorgeous.
Unfortunately I don't know any great Jewish names book. I would like one too. One day I asked my mom why didn't even own one, and she answered me: "Because we don't need one: in our family we give the same names again and again" LOL
How come you're so interested in Judaism? I have tried to learn a bit about Christianism myself and I took Latin lessons (at school in a totally non religious context), but it doesn't seem to compare with your interest!
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Hi, Claire!
But at least you can read Hebrew, and this is something. And how come you know German? Plus Yiddish? Plus French? Plus Spanish? Now it's me who is jealous!
I have a friend who now lives in the States (he is a professor of Modern Jewish thought and has always been a brighty). Together with him I studied (Christian) theology and we made Jewish musik for a number of years with a group. We went to Israel a few times organising student travel groups and working in a kibbutz, which was fun.
Latin I had to study as well plus Greek, and they both help a lot with names even though I'm not very good at either. But just being able to read Greek does help. I can speak French (not very well though), read Italian (with a dictionary) an a bit of Spanish ( with a dictionary and a friend) and that's it. No more bragging!
I love Chava Alberstein the singer - you must know her. I once heard the Klezmatics near my home town ant it was just gorgeous! I have a nice litte collection of Jewish music but most of it is old stuff.
What is your favourite?
Andy ;—)
But at least you can read Hebrew, and this is something. And how come you know German? Plus Yiddish? Plus French? Plus Spanish? Now it's me who is jealous!
I have a friend who now lives in the States (he is a professor of Modern Jewish thought and has always been a brighty). Together with him I studied (Christian) theology and we made Jewish musik for a number of years with a group. We went to Israel a few times organising student travel groups and working in a kibbutz, which was fun.
Latin I had to study as well plus Greek, and they both help a lot with names even though I'm not very good at either. But just being able to read Greek does help. I can speak French (not very well though), read Italian (with a dictionary) an a bit of Spanish ( with a dictionary and a friend) and that's it. No more bragging!
I love Chava Alberstein the singer - you must know her. I once heard the Klezmatics near my home town ant it was just gorgeous! I have a nice litte collection of Jewish music but most of it is old stuff.
What is your favourite?
Andy ;—)
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Hello!
I used to be able to read a tiny bit of Hebrew, but now it's all forgotten... I probably would recognize "kosher", the name of God, "shalom", "Israel" and my name, but that's all lol
About the others languages, French is my mother tongue, German my 1st foreign language in middle school and later high school, English my 2nd, Latin my 3rd and Italian my 4th (only French, German and English lessons were mandatory, others were options). I learned Spanish by looking at friends' school books. But now that I'm not in high school (just turned 20) anymore I'm forgetting lol
Yiddish and Ladino for familial reasons, but I only read them when they're written with the Latin alphabet lol
It's great that you've been to Israel! I'm just back from it, I went back home on the 1st August. What places have you seen? I've been to many places because it was maybe the 15th time. This time we went to Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Safed, Beth She'an, Tiberiade lake, and so on.
In what kibbutz where you? I have some relatives in kibbutzim.
I *love* Chava Alberstein! Her CD "Margaritkalach" is awesome! I also like Talila and Ben Zimet (Yiddish). I also LOVE Eli Mellul's "Jewish Spain lives forever" (Judeo Spanish). There's a new, young Polsih singer who is also good, but I can't remember her name. Maybe Justine Stekowska or something. I'll tell you later lol
I used to be able to read a tiny bit of Hebrew, but now it's all forgotten... I probably would recognize "kosher", the name of God, "shalom", "Israel" and my name, but that's all lol
About the others languages, French is my mother tongue, German my 1st foreign language in middle school and later high school, English my 2nd, Latin my 3rd and Italian my 4th (only French, German and English lessons were mandatory, others were options). I learned Spanish by looking at friends' school books. But now that I'm not in high school (just turned 20) anymore I'm forgetting lol
Yiddish and Ladino for familial reasons, but I only read them when they're written with the Latin alphabet lol
It's great that you've been to Israel! I'm just back from it, I went back home on the 1st August. What places have you seen? I've been to many places because it was maybe the 15th time. This time we went to Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Safed, Beth She'an, Tiberiade lake, and so on.
In what kibbutz where you? I have some relatives in kibbutzim.
I *love* Chava Alberstein! Her CD "Margaritkalach" is awesome! I also like Talila and Ben Zimet (Yiddish). I also LOVE Eli Mellul's "Jewish Spain lives forever" (Judeo Spanish). There's a new, young Polsih singer who is also good, but I can't remember her name. Maybe Justine Stekowska or something. I'll tell you later lol
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Fyi,
Spanish Jews are called Sephardic.
Spanish Jews are called Sephardic.
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Hi, Claire!
Have I asked you where you live? In France? Your English is very good - this can't be from high school. I wish I could learn a language by looking at my friends' books!
Its been a while since I last went to Israel (more than 20 years actually!) In the early 80s we did those kibbutz trips, one kibbutz was called Einat, another one Kfar Glikson. On our first journey we took a minibus from Germany via Cyprus - that was great. We went all over the country and saw many places from north to south. The second time my friend Mike was studying in Jerusalem and we could use his Renault. The group was travelling on public coaches and we even went to St.Catharine's monestary on the Sinai, which was a lot of fun. Behind Eilat we had to change to an Arab bus that was absolutely packed. On our way back we got caught in a sandstorm while waiting for the coach from Kairo, which didn't turn up for some hours.
Do you know "The Well" with songs written and sung by Chava? The lyrics are 20th century Yiddish poems and the band to accompany her is The Clezmatics! - Unfortunately I have never heard of Talila or Ben Zimet; nor do I know Eli Melull although I do have a nice collection of stuff of the kind …
Do you have a good French name book? I've tried to get hold of the Larousse Dictionaire des Prénoms but I couldn't find it anywhere in the internet. What would you recommend?
Bye
Andy ;—)
Have I asked you where you live? In France? Your English is very good - this can't be from high school. I wish I could learn a language by looking at my friends' books!
Its been a while since I last went to Israel (more than 20 years actually!) In the early 80s we did those kibbutz trips, one kibbutz was called Einat, another one Kfar Glikson. On our first journey we took a minibus from Germany via Cyprus - that was great. We went all over the country and saw many places from north to south. The second time my friend Mike was studying in Jerusalem and we could use his Renault. The group was travelling on public coaches and we even went to St.Catharine's monestary on the Sinai, which was a lot of fun. Behind Eilat we had to change to an Arab bus that was absolutely packed. On our way back we got caught in a sandstorm while waiting for the coach from Kairo, which didn't turn up for some hours.
Do you know "The Well" with songs written and sung by Chava? The lyrics are 20th century Yiddish poems and the band to accompany her is The Clezmatics! - Unfortunately I have never heard of Talila or Ben Zimet; nor do I know Eli Melull although I do have a nice collection of stuff of the kind …
Do you have a good French name book? I've tried to get hold of the Larousse Dictionaire des Prénoms but I couldn't find it anywhere in the internet. What would you recommend?
Bye
Andy ;—)
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