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Yes, I found Marigold to be an odd choice. I found myself wondering which character was to have supposed to pick her name. The person in Switzerland Marigold originally lived with? Edith? The farmer and his wife (can't recall their names)? It does not seem like something Edith would pick; agree that the "Mari" part would turn her off.
I would have named her something simple and dignified. I think Jane would suit her nicely.
I would have named her something simple and dignified. I think Jane would suit her nicely.
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I also wondered if I'd missed who was supposed to have actually named her because I wouldn't have thought it a name Edith would've picked. But on the other hand I also have next to no knowledge of 1920s upper-class English naming trends. Maybe Marigold isn't really that out there.
I don't think it's so close to Mary at all, since the Mari- isn't pronounced the same.
That said, I think it's a super cute name. Just seemed a bit out of place in the show.
I also wondered if I'd missed who was supposed to have actually named her because I wouldn't have thought it a name Edith would've picked. But on the other hand I also have next to no knowledge of 1920s upper-class English naming trends. Maybe Marigold isn't really that out there.
I don't think it's so close to Mary at all, since the Mari- isn't pronounced the same.
That said, I think it's a super cute name. Just seemed a bit out of place in the show.
This message was edited 3/21/2015, 2:51 PM
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I don't know anything about the series, but I know quite a bit about 1920s upper-class English naming trends and Marigold is totally fine for the class & period. Also, 'Mari' doesn't sound like Mary in the UK.
This message was edited 3/22/2015, 4:45 AM
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You'd have to be an idiot not to see the similarity between Mary and Marigold. There is also no difference in the American and British pronunciations of either Mary or Marigold apart from slight regional vowel brightening, or lengthening or shortening of the r consonant, which does not change it discernibly enough to consider them separate pronunciations. We don't say "merry gold" in America, nor are we all deaf to the point where we cannot hear how things are pronounced on television to compare them.
This message was edited 3/22/2015, 5:02 AM
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Some people say "merry gold" in America, regionally speaking.
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Well, I'm clearly an idiot as it had never occurred to me until now that there was a similarity between Mary and Marigold! Written down together it's more obvious, but the two names have a completely different image/feel to me. Mind you, I found the last series of Downton so boring I didn't give much thought to anything the characters said or did.
And we don't say merry gold in Britain anyway. I say marry gold. Mary is mare-ee, so different enough in my opinion.
And we don't say merry gold in Britain anyway. I say marry gold. Mary is mare-ee, so different enough in my opinion.
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https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/88115/how-are-marry-merry-and-mary-pronounced-differently
Note how the person says, "When I listen to the recordings, they all sound the same to me." Hence my assumption, because if you don't have the separation, you often can't hear the difference. It's probably far more audible to a native Brit.
Note how the person says, "When I listen to the recordings, they all sound the same to me." Hence my assumption, because if you don't have the separation, you often can't hear the difference. It's probably far more audible to a native Brit.
This message was edited 3/22/2015, 6:10 AM
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In the UK, they're MAIR-ee and MAH-ri-gold respectively. There is a difference. Similarity, too, but only really in the first three letters of each. You are being a smidge rude.
This message was edited 3/22/2015, 5:04 AM
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