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Nick name or not?
We are having a debate over the name Liam. I have read that it is the Irish form of William, meaning not a nick name. And I have had some people point out that it is a short form (considered a nickname) for William. Some books I have read have it as a Irish form and then I do research here on the great internet and it is listed as nn for Uilleam and William. Is it? Or by today's standard is it a real true name . I am so tired of the debates. I want this cleared up. I have so many people tell me that my son should be named William and be called Liam. If it by chance that it is a nick name and not a name in its own right then I will consider finding a new name for my baby to
be. Please help!
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From the little research I have done, I have found Liam to be an Irish alternative form of William . This doesn't mean that "Liam " can't be used as a nick-name, because I'm sure some people do use it as one. But by today's standards, ANY name can be a name in its own right. (We make them up all the time around here!) If you are so concerned with the name having its own meaning (William means "determined guardian", so Liam would mean the same as it's an alternate form of William ), perhaps it would be best to choose another name. This is just my opinion;I'm sure someone else will say different. Although, I personally love the name Liam as a first or middle name.
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Liam is definitley the irish for William !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I live in a irish speaking community and nobody ever disaggred with me.Even if Liam is a nickname don't that put you off calling you're child Liam .
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Alternative, is this the same as short or familiar form?I know that Isabel is the spanish form for Elizabeth
and Ivan is the Russian form of John and Sean as the Irish form for John as well
What is Liam ? - alternative, short or Irish form?Could it be short for Ulliean?
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Liam is the Irish form of William . It is not "short" or the "familiar" form of the name. It is as you described Ivan being the Russian form of John , etc. Liam is the same name as William , just in the Irish language form. Does this help?
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tungtung si je a je
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Yes it does help tremendously!That is what I have thought all long and I just needed to be reassured it is. I am going to name my son Liam (if we have a boy this December) and I am quite happy with the choice. I was meant with opposition some 6 years ago with my daughter's name,if you haven't already guessed, it is Keely . So this is not new to me and I am sure that sooner or later that Liam will be a name that most people will have heard of. You would think that Liam would have reached many people's ears by now because of the actor Liam Neeson.
Have a good day! Thank you!
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William and LiamIt is true that Liam is a short form of William, but still what should prevent you from calling your child Liam?
I mean Will is also a short form of William and that is a perfectly normal name.
I myself do like Will better than Liam though, but that was not the question I guess.-Selwyn
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Selwyn,
Most people expect Will to be a nick name for William. I am not the type of person who will give a given name that is considered a nickname. It is not my style. My father was Joe Pat and his brother was Bobby. People his whole life thought his real name was Joseph Patrick and his brother Robert. I just am trying to get away from the country stero-typical image that Southerners always have short nick names as real names as my grandmother so richly gave into.
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Hi, Keely's Mom. I remembered we'd discussed the name "Liam" back in February. Check it out:http://www.behindthename.com/messages/4647.htmlHope that helps to shed some light for you. The general consensus was that "Liam" is *not* strictly a nickname, but nowadays considered to be a name in its own right. :)-- Nanaea
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