Ihad not read all the faq's because the only other message boards I've used tend to be more straight forward without all the rtfm,nt and 2=f's or m's I was not trying to be humourous but insulting. I apologize for that. I guess I was irritated by the "public joke" and missed where you were trying to be helpful. Thank you. However I did follow instructions. The gender for Delene is female as indicated. The only other information I have is that her side of the family "may" have "immigrated" from North Carolina in the late 1800's. Again I apologize for my hasty and improper response. However I must say that the "humor" displayed by your friends on this site reminds me of the "preppies" at my daughter's school who tend to make fun of the disabled and those without the financial resources to wear the "right" clothes. I find it quite distaseful.