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Along with the latest name update in December came new ways of identifying what a name actually "means" (i.e. its etymological meaning). Previously, anything in the definition in double quotes was considered the meaning. This was problematic because other stuff might appear in double quotes as well. Additionally, many definitions don't have double-quoted meanings (e.g. Lily) and some refer to a secondary definition for the meaning (e.g. Miguel). I had ways around these issues, but they needed improvement. I also wanted names that were formed from compound elements to be able to "inherit" the meanings more accurately.
Long story short, this is a new feature and there haven't been any updates since, so there are still some kinks to iron out!
As for your specific examples:
Simon and Simonides: this is fixed. The issue was the - in the meaning.
Mona: "one" and "my lady" were not considered meanings (more like associations) but this will be changed for the next update.
áss: yes this is matching the "one of the Æsir" meaning. This can be tightened up for the next update.
- sign: this is a tricky one.... if you say that you are looking for a name that doesn't mean X, then what if a particular name means X or Y? It has a meaning that is not X (i.e. Y) so perhaps it should be included in the results, but perhaps it should not. I'll have a closer look at the logic.
"wealth" including "wealthy", but "water" not including "waters": you're referring to a keyword search, not a meaning search is that right? Keywords 5 letters long or less must match exactly, while longer ones only have to match the beginning of a word. This has not changed from previous updates.
Long story short, this is a new feature and there haven't been any updates since, so there are still some kinks to iron out!
As for your specific examples:
Simon and Simonides: this is fixed. The issue was the - in the meaning.
Mona: "one" and "my lady" were not considered meanings (more like associations) but this will be changed for the next update.
áss: yes this is matching the "one of the Æsir" meaning. This can be tightened up for the next update.
- sign: this is a tricky one.... if you say that you are looking for a name that doesn't mean X, then what if a particular name means X or Y? It has a meaning that is not X (i.e. Y) so perhaps it should be included in the results, but perhaps it should not. I'll have a closer look at the logic.
"wealth" including "wealthy", but "water" not including "waters": you're referring to a keyword search, not a meaning search is that right? Keywords 5 letters long or less must match exactly, while longer ones only have to match the beginning of a word. This has not changed from previous updates.
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Thank you for your detailed response! It’s cleared up a lot for me.
With the - sign, I’ve been doing a bit more experimenting trying to exclude various words in the keyword search, and it doesn’t seem to be working at all. A search with no filters brings up 25,564 results; a search excluding "one", either with the - sign or by specifying the description "is not any of", brings up 25,559 results, with several results on the first page containing the excluded word. The results are similar when excluding "form", "Finnish", "flower", or "transcription".
Thanks again for answering my questions, I really appreciate that you took the time to go through them all.
With the - sign, I’ve been doing a bit more experimenting trying to exclude various words in the keyword search, and it doesn’t seem to be working at all. A search with no filters brings up 25,564 results; a search excluding "one", either with the - sign or by specifying the description "is not any of", brings up 25,559 results, with several results on the first page containing the excluded word. The results are similar when excluding "form", "Finnish", "flower", or "transcription".
Thanks again for answering my questions, I really appreciate that you took the time to go through them all.