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Re: Name Sighting
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"Black people give their kids funny names, hahaha"
Rosalie Evander Larkin
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FFS. Does it help that he also fits in with white kids Rebel, Diva, and Free? The point was it’s a ridiculous pseudo-virtue name. Why do you have to turn everything into a racial thing or assume that must be what it’s about? I listed the examples I did because they were recent pseudo-virtue names and the first two to come to mind because they were highly publicized.
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OH sorry you must have expected a response more like this:"HAHA what a ridiculous name! We are so much better at names than everyone else! You are so great for finding us this TERRIBLE name to laugh at!"What's the point of posting names you already know no one's going to like?
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Isn't the whole point of this website to discuss the names we encounter/notice/think about, with people who spend an above average time thinking/discussing/noticing names?
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Is everyone agreeing about how just horribly bad a name is a discussion now? There are some name sites that don't alllow that. They manage just fine. Why would the parent pick the name? Want to discuss that? Of course not, you want to pay yourselves on the back for having so much better taste than those plebes who don't post here. If only Sir-Real's mom had popped in, you all could have convinced her to name him August instead! (Or, more likely, ignored her thread while you swooned over August in another thread, because, really, threads where people ask for opinions on names that don't already have the BTN Stamp of Approval or aren't just SO BAD don't tend to do well. Even names that would otherwise be considered Good by board standards don't garner many comments if it's not something people here already know and like).Don't worry; I'm not going to post on Ops anymore. You can circlejerk about how great your taste is to your hearts content.
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This seems like an overreaction. This site has always had a certain culture to it, for lack of a better word. You're only now objecting to it? You can't demand people react a certain way to names. Should we have more nuanced discussions of names? Probably. That'd be neat, but I don't really think that's what Ops was intended to be, and I'm not surprised it's not like that now. It's always just been a fun place to share short opinions of names, even if those opinions end up being nothing more than "meh" or "I love it."
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I will say that I’ll miss your posts on ops. I love how analytical you are, and how good you are at calling out bullshit.
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I doubt you won’t return. People always say that as a sort of “fine, I’ll just take my toys elsewhere” sort of childish remark and they rarely stick to it. Being here over 10 years, 1 person out of many has actually left for good. YOU are the one who has placed a moral ideology on the OP name. No one else did. No one even stated whether Sir-Real was a person of color. I’ve known people of color (not just black) with the name but I’ve also known a couple of white kids with Sir in their name. Demographics aren’t how they used to be where YOU can assume the race, or for that matter the gender, of a name. What race is Sir Marcus, Sir James, or Sir Travious in your mind? You obviously feel it’s the name of a person of color. All 3 of those are white kids I’ve met. Get over your holier than thou attitude, which you are surprisingly saying is what we are doing by commenting on a name that has no race mentioned anywhere. That’s what we do on the OPS board; we comment on names. You’re the only one injecting race.

This message was edited 7/18/2018, 6:17 AM

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You know, sometimes I do see interesting names that I feel could be worth sharing here, that I don’t post because I worry that all the responses will be what you just described above, and it bums me out a little.
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Same, here.
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DittoExactly how I feel. Leave the politics out of a name website.
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That’s not what I mean. I mean that I know I’ll get responses along the lines of “haha what a stupid name why would the parents have picked something so tasteless??” And not much else. Boring.I think it’s important to examine our racial biases and there tend to be a lot of them, when it comes to names.
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Agreed that people may have a racial bias, but people here are also making assumptions and stereotypes about a names race when none has been noted.
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Agree.
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Ooh yeah a majority white board laughing at a black name, that's totally okay. It's fine because it's names!
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Exactly. I placed no moral comment on the name. That was all Rachel Shaina.Also, you’re not alone. I’ve had PMs saying they wish they could post a name but feel they’ll be skewered by the PC police even though their post has no negative commentary about the name.

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As I said to aussiechic, that’s not what I mean. I’m not worried about the “pc police” I’m worried that people will have nothing to say about certain names that isn’t “haha look at this bad name picked out by stupid tasteless parents.”
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How do you know the parents are black? Honest question. Was this a celebrity BA?
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She cited the names of two black celebrity children, for one thing. Black parents are more likely to pick names like 'Sir' and other titles (King, Prince, Major, Messiah, etc) as baby names. This article mentions why briefly:
https://appellationmountain.net/sir-baby-name-of-the-day/
QuoteOr perhaps the name picks up on another custom. I’ve read that African American parents sometimes gave their children titles as names, from the humble Mister to the loftier General. Why? Because, by custom, white adults were addressed as Mr. LastName or Mrs. LastName. But adults of color would forever be FirstName, regardless of age.
It's sort of a way to command respect; after generations of not being addressed by a title or being called 'boy' (or worse).
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