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HelpShould I drop the (archaic) when adding east frisian names?
I'm rather unsure if it's enough to add names as east frisian or if I should continue adding them as east frisian (archaic).
East frisia has majorily adopted general (north) german name culture meaning that most of east frisian names can at this point be viewed as archaic also east frisian isn't even spoken anymore, my question is would it be enough to just add names as east frisian as the archaic is self explanatory?
East frisia has majorily adopted general (north) german name culture meaning that most of east frisian names can at this point be viewed as archaic also east frisian isn't even spoken anymore, my question is would it be enough to just add names as east frisian as the archaic is self explanatory?
This message was edited 6/26/2023, 9:29 AM
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This is a tricky question. Unfortunately there is a gap in the help as to how to deal with this, so things are not consistent.
I believe there is an understanding on this website that names from extinct, endangered or little-spoken languages are automatically rare or archaic. That is, the archaic/rare label is used relatively within the category.
Are there some East Frisian names that are more widely used? If so, that moves the baseline, and the other names should be marked rare or archaic. If not, then I don't see it as particularly useful to have all names in the category marked rare or archaic.
Perhaps others have some thoughts? I am see-sawing in my mind about the best way to address this.
I believe there is an understanding on this website that names from extinct, endangered or little-spoken languages are automatically rare or archaic. That is, the archaic/rare label is used relatively within the category.
Are there some East Frisian names that are more widely used? If so, that moves the baseline, and the other names should be marked rare or archaic. If not, then I don't see it as particularly useful to have all names in the category marked rare or archaic.
Perhaps others have some thoughts? I am see-sawing in my mind about the best way to address this.
Thank you for your answer!
There have been names in East Frisia's history that have been definetly more widely used than others but I'm not so sure how this translates to modern day use, it's rather difficult for me to figure out as Germany doesn’t publish any offical name statistics for East Frisia.
I'm using the book "Namengebung in Ostfriesland" by Manno Peters Tammena, he seldomly marks names as being used in the 20th and 21th century, this corresponds with what local historian Bernhard Brons has already written in the 19th century about the disappearing of east frisian names in East Frisia.
Before asking the question I marked almost all names I added as archaic which I'm not seeing as useful either.
Assuming that the last centuries in which east frisian names were widely used in East Frisia were the 18th/19th centuries maybe using that as the baseline and only adding names as archaic whos only recordings are in and before the 17th century could be an option? Or would that be confusing for visitors?
There have been names in East Frisia's history that have been definetly more widely used than others but I'm not so sure how this translates to modern day use, it's rather difficult for me to figure out as Germany doesn’t publish any offical name statistics for East Frisia.
I'm using the book "Namengebung in Ostfriesland" by Manno Peters Tammena, he seldomly marks names as being used in the 20th and 21th century, this corresponds with what local historian Bernhard Brons has already written in the 19th century about the disappearing of east frisian names in East Frisia.
Before asking the question I marked almost all names I added as archaic which I'm not seeing as useful either.
Assuming that the last centuries in which east frisian names were widely used in East Frisia were the 18th/19th centuries maybe using that as the baseline and only adding names as archaic whos only recordings are in and before the 17th century could be an option? Or would that be confusing for visitors?
This message was edited 6/27/2023, 3:33 AM
This sounds good to me. :)