|Subject:||i think we're both wrong :( because...(m)|
|Author:||Menke (Authenticated as menke)|
|Date:||September 10, 2004 at 6:53:53 AM|
|Reply to:||this will lead to more confusion sorry (m) by Menke|
a) it's doubtful if Ashlyn is a variant on Aisling; although i have to admit: Ashlyn, Ashling, Aisling? BtN says different though.
b) i've been on a research and i still am at the moment of writing (lol):
i've found the masculine name Ascel and i think this is the stam from which the feminine name Ascela has been derived. but now more about Ascel and Ascelin:
i tried some variants of both:
Aschel: found it as a variant of the German/Swiss surname Ascher (like Escher) and as a variant on the surname Eschen.
Ashel: this is a Hebrew first name with the meaning 'made of god' (i think though that Ascel is of Western-Europian origin)
Aschelin and Askelin: used as surname in for example Sweden, but all sorts of other countries.
Eschelin: this is interesting, now here we achieve something:
this is a site about early medieval given names in the Low Lands (it's very slow loading, mind you): www.keesn.nl/names/list_m.htm
On the site the following names are from the same origin:
Ascelin (!), Escelin, Anselinus, Azelinus and Aezzelin. The etymological components of which those exist are asc and lin .
i will look further, but till now i have found this:
Hermann von Reichenau said about Hartwig, bishop of Bamberg in Latin (after Hartwigs dead): "Hazelinus etiam, Babinbergensis episcopus infamis, moriem locun dedit"
with the two years latin i've had i can understand that Babinbergensis refers to Bamberg and that Hazelinus etiam means 'i was Hazelin(us)'. this is interesting as Hazelinus is no doubt a variant of Azelinus (or the other way round) and it refers here to Hartwig. And the site of the Meertens Instituut stated that Hessel could possibly be a flattering name aka nickname of a name beginning with hart- , just like here HAZELinus refers to HARTwig!! seems like another connection
About asc- :
according to the site of the Meertens Instituut asc- or ask- means 'es' in Dutch (it's a tree). and here it goes: 'es' in English is 'ash' !!!!!!
that seems like a pretty plausible connection between Ashlyn and Ascelin (for the first component). Now i'm off to research the second component.
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