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in reply to a message by SilverDragon
Sian is Welsh not English.
Séan(pronounced Shan) is the Irish for old and it is also used for wise as well. Hence Shannon and Senan/Séanan. The chief meaning could have been extrapolated from the old and wise meaning - ie an elder.
There is an Irish name surname Shanley. I found this http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/shanley-family-crest.htm which states it comes from Séan +laoch(hero) which seems plausible.
But I also found this http://www.surnamedb.com /surname.aspx?name=Shanley which argues for an English meaning. It is not unusual for a surname in Ireland to have both an English/Scottish/Welsh and Irish origin.
Séan(pronounced Shan) is the Irish for old and it is also used for wise as well. Hence Shannon and Senan/Séanan. The chief meaning could have been extrapolated from the old and wise meaning - ie an elder.
There is an Irish name surname Shanley. I found this http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/shanley-family-crest.htm which states it comes from Séan +laoch(hero) which seems plausible.
But I also found this http://www.surnamedb.com /surname.aspx?name=Shanley which argues for an English meaning. It is not unusual for a surname in Ireland to have both an English/Scottish/Welsh and Irish origin.
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Thank you - the first website was very helpful. I don't tend to believe the latter as scenc --> shan seems a bit far off to change the the vowel, drop to consonants, change the s to sh and add an 'n', it really isn't common at all.
I didn't mean Sian was English, I said Shan was an anglicized form Sian, where the English name John derived the French name Jeanne, which derived the Welsh name Sian, which derived the English name Shan. Complicated...
I will pass on your findings, thanks again,
~SD
I didn't mean Sian was English, I said Shan was an anglicized form Sian, where the English name John derived the French name Jeanne, which derived the Welsh name Sian, which derived the English name Shan. Complicated...
I will pass on your findings, thanks again,
~SD
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