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HelpRe: I don't see how this is at all racist...
in reply to a message by coldplayer9
The urban legend is racist. Lesley's version does not have the extra details that really make it racist, but that does not change the origin.
I'm not assuming anything.
I'm not assuming anything.
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Eh, I'm not sure I agree so much with your argument here. I mean, there's tons of stuff in this world which started unpleasantly and have become divorced from their unpleasant beginnings. I mean, someone was telling me the other day that loads of modern medical practices (chemo was one they listed, but I'm too lazy to check up on that) have their roots in or have been improved by Nazi medical experiments during WWII. Now, I don't buy that and I'm too lazy to do my research, but if we're using your argument I can rightfully stand here and say that because of its origin (which we're taking as true for the sake of the argument), chemo is nazi-ish. Which is stupid.
Unrelated and long winded, but basically, I call fallacy on your logic here.
That said, the original La-a story I heard did specify the race of the parent s as African-American. Because of the prevalence of the urban legend, I find LesleyDracken's story pretty hard to swallow - mainly because it's almost word for word the story I was told by someone else. Coincidence? Hmm... I just think it's another case of someone posting or talking about a kid called LaTrine or Unicycle. Stupid nmes do exist, but so do stupid urban myths.
Unrelated and long winded, but basically, I call fallacy on your logic here.
That said, the original La-a story I heard did specify the race of the parent s as African-American. Because of the prevalence of the urban legend, I find LesleyDracken's story pretty hard to swallow - mainly because it's almost word for word the story I was told by someone else. Coincidence? Hmm... I just think it's another case of someone posting or talking about a kid called LaTrine or Unicycle. Stupid nmes do exist, but so do stupid urban myths.
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What I meant is that Lesley didn't throw in bits like the ebonics ("The dash don't be silent") or the detail that the child lived in Detroit or wherever, as often gets thrown into the story.
And I basically said that because I didn't want Lesley to feel like I'm saying "Yes you are definitely being a racist for repeating this story". My aim with my "logic" was "This story is racist but I don't think Lesley is."
http://www.babynamewizard.com/archives/2009/10/ledasha-legends-and-race-part-one
from this article:
I am not saying that telling the story of Le-a, or Lemonjello and Oranjello, or Male and Female (that's MAH-lay and feh-MAH-lay, of course) makes you a racist. People of every color and background repeat the stories because they're clever and amusing. What I am saying is that as a group, the legend names have a context and meaning we shouldn't ignore. Or to put it another way, I haven't mentioned a word about Ledasha's race, but didn't you draw assumptions about it? And aren't those assumptions a key part of the story?
(Did you seriously compare chemo with an urban legend.)
(Also I'm not the first person to call this story racist on this board, but I sure am the first person I've seen getting called out on it. w00p.)
And I basically said that because I didn't want Lesley to feel like I'm saying "Yes you are definitely being a racist for repeating this story". My aim with my "logic" was "This story is racist but I don't think Lesley is."
http://www.babynamewizard.com/archives/2009/10/ledasha-legends-and-race-part-one
from this article:
I am not saying that telling the story of Le-a, or Lemonjello and Oranjello, or Male and Female (that's MAH-lay and feh-MAH-lay, of course) makes you a racist. People of every color and background repeat the stories because they're clever and amusing. What I am saying is that as a group, the legend names have a context and meaning we shouldn't ignore. Or to put it another way, I haven't mentioned a word about Ledasha's race, but didn't you draw assumptions about it? And aren't those assumptions a key part of the story?
(Did you seriously compare chemo with an urban legend.)
(Also I'm not the first person to call this story racist on this board, but I sure am the first person I've seen getting called out on it. w00p.)
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