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Help[Opinions] Jack and Kepler
Two very different names that have been on my mind lately. One popular and one not at all (I don't think?). What are your thoughts on these names?
I know some people don't like Jack on it's own as they find it too insubstantial compared to John which it was originally a nn for, but I personally find that ridiculous since it is the same number of letters and syllables. I never used to like it, but my boyfriend does. It's probably too popular for me as a fn (Number 1 in New Zealand!) but maybe as a mn. Do you think it goes with any of my top names:
Hugo
Ronan
Conrad
Ronan
Theodore?
Also Keplar is the name of a walking track someone mentioned and then I remembered someone talking about it as a name online somewhere. With my accent it sounds like KEP-lah. Do you think that's too girly sounding? It's no different to Tyler which we pronounce TY-lah.
I know some people don't like Jack on it's own as they find it too insubstantial compared to John which it was originally a nn for, but I personally find that ridiculous since it is the same number of letters and syllables. I never used to like it, but my boyfriend does. It's probably too popular for me as a fn (Number 1 in New Zealand!) but maybe as a mn. Do you think it goes with any of my top names:
Hugo
Ronan
Conrad
Ronan
Theodore?
Also Keplar is the name of a walking track someone mentioned and then I remembered someone talking about it as a name online somewhere. With my accent it sounds like KEP-lah. Do you think that's too girly sounding? It's no different to Tyler which we pronounce TY-lah.
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I also used to dislike Jack due to its popularity, but it's my boyfriend's favourite name (guys seem to really like the name Jack in my experience!) so I started to re-think how I felt about it, and now I love it and it's currently our top name for a boy.
I definitely prefer it as a full fn, I'm from the UK and it's never really used as a nickname for John here nowadays. It's really popular here too, but I think it's popular for a good reason. It's strong, snappy, cool and unpretentious and it also has a lot of history- some people might say it lacks substance but I don't think that's true. I like the fact it was very popular during the Middle Ages and was used in a lot of fairy tales and nursery rhymes (Jack and the Beanstalk, Jack and Jill, Jack Sprat etc.) Wikipedia says Jack was a folk hero: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_%28hero%29
Theodore is nice, but a bit too heavy sounding for me. I do like Hugo and Conrad, and I think they both go well with Jack. I've never liked Ronan as it just reminds me of Ronan Keating the singer.
Kepler is quite interesting, but not my style. I think it's usable though and doesn't sound too girly.
I definitely prefer it as a full fn, I'm from the UK and it's never really used as a nickname for John here nowadays. It's really popular here too, but I think it's popular for a good reason. It's strong, snappy, cool and unpretentious and it also has a lot of history- some people might say it lacks substance but I don't think that's true. I like the fact it was very popular during the Middle Ages and was used in a lot of fairy tales and nursery rhymes (Jack and the Beanstalk, Jack and Jill, Jack Sprat etc.) Wikipedia says Jack was a folk hero: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_%28hero%29
Theodore is nice, but a bit too heavy sounding for me. I do like Hugo and Conrad, and I think they both go well with Jack. I've never liked Ronan as it just reminds me of Ronan Keating the singer.
Kepler is quite interesting, but not my style. I think it's usable though and doesn't sound too girly.
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Kepler, girly sounding? Not really! Try Googling Kepler Wessels, Wikipedia is probably the best, and see what it means in SA and Oz (where it also sounds like Keplah). Must say, I find the walking track pretty darn funny!
Jack goes fine with Hugo and Ronan; not really with Conrad (pity, as it's my favourite, closely followed by Hugo) and not at all with Theodore.
Jack goes fine with Hugo and Ronan; not really with Conrad (pity, as it's my favourite, closely followed by Hugo) and not at all with Theodore.
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Kepler is the name of a really cool astronomer, and it's been on my mind lately - I think I'm going to give it as a name to my sim's next kid. The sibset will then be
Hermes
Kepler
Gossip
But I'd be down for using it in real life, too. Kepler was brave as hell! And I like the sound. I wouldn't use it if I only knew it as a walking track, though, but that's just me. Isn't it nice that I'm not calling it ridiculous that you like it? I'm such a saint. Santa Emma. Where's my halo?
Jack is, like, a boring substanceless name, and I don't get what people like about it so much. It's a flimsy artifice upon which a vague concept of spunkiness rests. It does nothing for me. People who like it more as a nickname don't count nicknames on the numbers of letters and syllables, but on whether you can fill the name up with meaning or not. You can't fill Jack up with meaning - it has no etymology. John can be filled up with meaning. Some people don't care if you can fill up a name with meaning or not, but I do, because that's the place where my entire interest in names resides. So, no stamp of approval from me. The best I can say for it is that it isn't Jackson, which is even more vapid. I wonder if I'd put it a bit more politely if you hadn't called my POV ridiculous! We shall never know.
It doesn't stand out too much from any individual one of your names, though none of them are as casual as Jack - they're both the same sort of self-conscious middlish-class naming. But as a group, wow, there's so much more dignity and gravitas in your other favorites - they're like big tall trees with far-extending invisible roots, where Jack is some dry discarded christmas tree.
Hermes
Kepler
Gossip
But I'd be down for using it in real life, too. Kepler was brave as hell! And I like the sound. I wouldn't use it if I only knew it as a walking track, though, but that's just me. Isn't it nice that I'm not calling it ridiculous that you like it? I'm such a saint. Santa Emma. Where's my halo?
Jack is, like, a boring substanceless name, and I don't get what people like about it so much. It's a flimsy artifice upon which a vague concept of spunkiness rests. It does nothing for me. People who like it more as a nickname don't count nicknames on the numbers of letters and syllables, but on whether you can fill the name up with meaning or not. You can't fill Jack up with meaning - it has no etymology. John can be filled up with meaning. Some people don't care if you can fill up a name with meaning or not, but I do, because that's the place where my entire interest in names resides. So, no stamp of approval from me. The best I can say for it is that it isn't Jackson, which is even more vapid. I wonder if I'd put it a bit more politely if you hadn't called my POV ridiculous! We shall never know.
It doesn't stand out too much from any individual one of your names, though none of them are as casual as Jack - they're both the same sort of self-conscious middlish-class naming. But as a group, wow, there's so much more dignity and gravitas in your other favorites - they're like big tall trees with far-extending invisible roots, where Jack is some dry discarded christmas tree.
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Jack used to be okay in a gritty, sturdy way. But then it became the it name for movie heroes and it lost its flavor. It's okay but nothing special. It goes fine with your other names.
Keplar doesn't sound girly. It doesn't sound anything but surnamey. Not even good surnamey. Like it'd be the name of a big medical facility where they test horrible diseases on fluffy bunnies and baby monkeys.
Keplar doesn't sound girly. It doesn't sound anything but surnamey. Not even good surnamey. Like it'd be the name of a big medical facility where they test horrible diseases on fluffy bunnies and baby monkeys.
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