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I recently met a child, who at first I thought was a boy based on reading her name, but was informed she was actually a girl. The name was Phoenix. Unfortunately, the parents informed me that it is actually spelled Phynix.
Dumb.
Dumb.
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That makes no sense what so ever. I can understand something like Phenix, but Phynix? Looks like it should be pronounced fin-ix.
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yes it does! that was my very first thought!!!
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I like Phoenix.
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Would Phynix be pronounced the same as Phoenix? It doesn't look like it would.
Personally, I prefer Fe'Nixx.
Personally, I prefer Fe'Nixx.
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Haha!
Fe'Nixx. Thats funny.
The parents are pronouncing it just like Phoenix, even though proper phonics would pronounce it "Fie-nix."
Fe'Nixx. Thats funny.
The parents are pronouncing it just like Phoenix, even though proper phonics would pronounce it "Fie-nix."
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It isn't necessarily the base name that is craptastic to me. Mostly, it is the fact that the butchered it on top of putting it on a gender it is not typically on (creating the..."Oh, I thought you were a boy" conundrum). Phoenix, by itself, though not my style is not a bad name necessarily. Its what they have done to it that is bad in my opinion.
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So parents are not allowed to give their daughter a unisex name that is used a bit more for boys just to spare you the confusion? That doesn't make sense, especially because Phoenix is still a rare name so most people wouldn't see it as especially masculine or feminine just because they've never met one. It's not like naming your daughter Ethan, so I think you're overreacting. Yeah, the spelling sucks, but that's about it if you ask me. Plus I can actually see this getting more common for girls than boys in the future. It reminds me of the name Taylor which was first a bit more common for boys and then became super popular for girls.
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Well, thats your opinion then. You are allowed to have it.
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It isn't her opinion that the name is unisex, that's a fact.
The name sucks because of the spelling.
The name sucks because of the spelling.
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Yes, it is fact that the name is used on both genders...however, it is also fact that it is more widely used on males than females (at least here in the US where on males it ranks in the 400's and in females it ranks in the 700's. Which makes the name not as rare as people imagine).
I work in the medical field, so when names that are typically used on one gender over another and parents decide to swith it, it creates a lot of problems. Kids can get the wrong meds and things can go wrong (despite safeguards). So yes, I do think it is a bad idea to put male names on females. Not morally wrong, or inherently evil...just bad (especially in a medical sense).
I work in the medical field, so when names that are typically used on one gender over another and parents decide to swith it, it creates a lot of problems. Kids can get the wrong meds and things can go wrong (despite safeguards). So yes, I do think it is a bad idea to put male names on females. Not morally wrong, or inherently evil...just bad (especially in a medical sense).
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Well, people can get the gender wrong in even the simplest of cases. When I went to Italy on exchange, despite my name being Sarah, and my gender being noted on the forms, I was twice mistaken for a male and roomed with a male, because my surname is a typically masculine name and that's what appeared first on the forms. So to relate that to this discussion, I doubt a unisex name causes more problems than what would just occur naturally anyway.
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Kids get the wrong meds because people make assumptions about their gender based on names? Isn't there a a place on their records that records their gender? Don't they double check that stuff before handing out the pills?
There must be a lot of very sick children out there in that case, unless all medical professionals are well versed with every single culture on the face of the planet. I mean, I don't know about you, but I would be a little confused if Ling is a boy or girl, or Veslemoy or Ingegerd, just because I'm not an expert on those cultures.
There must be a lot of very sick children out there in that case, unless all medical professionals are well versed with every single culture on the face of the planet. I mean, I don't know about you, but I would be a little confused if Ling is a boy or girl, or Veslemoy or Ingegerd, just because I'm not an expert on those cultures.
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What I am saying is that it gives one more reason to mess up things. They do double check. Actually, nurses check five times. But that can't be said for all caretakers in a facility. It has happened before, and I would hate for my kids' name to add another reason to screw things up. This is especially prominent in twin sets when both twins are the same gender or one child has a typically female name the other has a typically male name (or worse yet, you can't tell the difference) in a male/female set in which each has something different than their stated gender, or worse yet when the kids have the same name spelled differently (imagine a male Phoenix and a female Phynix in a set...stuff like that happens all the time!). It all becomes a muddle. It is more common than you think.
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I get what you are saying, but I think it is a little extreme to say that a child runs the risk of being poisoned by the wrong medication because he is named Ashley instead of Benjamin or Blake rather than Jenny. You almost make it sound like the parents are purposely inviting bodily misfortune on their children because of their name choices.
Maybe I'm just getting defensive because it freaks the hell out of me.
Maybe I'm just getting defensive because it freaks the hell out of me.
This message was edited 1/1/2010, 8:56 PM
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I wouldn't say they are purposefully doing it, but I do think it increases a child's risk. Choosing the name despite its risk is somewhat negligent in my opinion.
When you have twins named Kiley and Riley or even kids named Mikayla Miller and Michael Miller there is a high risk that somewhere along the line something will go wrong. It isn't as prevalent with onesies, but it happens just the same. Especially if a little girl is named something like Tyler or Dylan or a boy is named something like Ashley or Hilary. Not everyone is as careful as they should be. Mistakes exist. Thats not to say that a mistake of a different nature wouldn't occur on a Jane or a Daniel...but they definately seem to have a decreased risk.
It sounds crass, but its true. I am not just making it up to scare people, I am just telling fact. It does suck though if you really like a name to hear that about it.
When you have twins named Kiley and Riley or even kids named Mikayla Miller and Michael Miller there is a high risk that somewhere along the line something will go wrong. It isn't as prevalent with onesies, but it happens just the same. Especially if a little girl is named something like Tyler or Dylan or a boy is named something like Ashley or Hilary. Not everyone is as careful as they should be. Mistakes exist. Thats not to say that a mistake of a different nature wouldn't occur on a Jane or a Daniel...but they definately seem to have a decreased risk.
It sounds crass, but its true. I am not just making it up to scare people, I am just telling fact. It does suck though if you really like a name to hear that about it.
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Again, I see your points, especially in the case of multiples, but....I just don't think many people are aware that a name choice affects the risk of medical mistakes - therefore how can they know they are being negligent? I certainly would never, ever, EVER have worried that my child would be given the wrong meds simply because of his name, until you mentioned it.
I just don't think it's quite fair to be so judgmental about the "negligent parent" thing over a name - obviously no sane parent thinks "I am naming this child Phynix and I don't really care if she one day gets the wrong medical treatment and dies because of it". Know what I am saying?
I just don't think it's quite fair to be so judgmental about the "negligent parent" thing over a name - obviously no sane parent thinks "I am naming this child Phynix and I don't really care if she one day gets the wrong medical treatment and dies because of it". Know what I am saying?
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I know exactly what you are saying, thats why I said, "choosing the name despite its risk" in a sense that they are aware of the risks. If the person has no idea then it doesn't constitute negligence. I think as a general rule, no parent wishes trouble upon their child.
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I know a girl who chooses to call herself that. Same spelling and everything. I have no idea what her real name even is. I don't know if she legally changed it to that. But believe it or not, I'm seen stranger!
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Why does everyone assume Phoenix is always a boy name? It sounds more feminine to me.
I agree, the spelling is atrocious. It looks like it should be FIE-nix.
I agree, the spelling is atrocious. It looks like it should be FIE-nix.
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How old were the parents? 18?
Even the correct spelling of Phoenix is egregious to me, but Phynix is so trashy-sounding. Completely trashy.
Even the correct spelling of Phoenix is egregious to me, but Phynix is so trashy-sounding. Completely trashy.
This message was edited 1/1/2010, 8:12 PM
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Early 20's actually
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