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Ellerine f Norwegian (Rare), Swedish (Rare)
Feminine form of Ellert

Ellerly f & m English
Transferred use of the surname Ellerly.

Ellertine f Norwegian (Rare, Archaic)
Feminine form of Ellert

Elles f Dutch (Modern)
Probably a short form of Elisabeth.

Ellesia f English (Modern, Rare)

Ellesifa f Icelandic (Rare, Archaic)
Possibly a variant of Ellisif.

Ellesmere f & m English (British, Rare)
Transferred use of the surname Ellesmere.

Ellesse f English (New Zealand, Modern, Rare), English (American, Rare)
From the name of the Italian sportswear brand, which is derived from the initials of its founder, Leonardo Servadio (the letters L and S, in Italian elle esse).

Elletina f English (African, Rare)
Combination of Elle and Tina.

Elletta f Obscure

Ellette f English (Modern, Rare)
Either a combination of Elle with the suffix -ette or a transferred use of the surname Ellette.

Ellevine f Norwegian (Rare)
Female form of Ellev.

Elley f Icelandic (Modern)
Combination of Ell-, a new name element taken from names like Ella 2, Ellen 1, Elin and the like, and the Old Norse name element ey "island; flat land along a coast" (which is also often related to the Old Norse name element auja "(gift of) luck; fortune").

Ellgard f German (Rare)

Ellia f English (American, Rare), French (Modern, Rare)

Elliadria f English (Modern)
Name of former Bad Girl Elliadria Griffin (1988-). Or known as Persuasion! Persuasion is known for being in the show Bad Girls Club (2006-2017)!

Elliann f English
Variant spelling Ellianne.

Ellianna f English (American, Modern), Greek

Ellianne f English (Rare), Dutch (Rare)
Variant of Elianne.

Elliava f American

Ellica f Swedish (Modern, Rare)
Variant of Ellika.

Ellice f English, Anglo-Norman, Medieval Irish (Anglicized)
Anglicized form of Eilíse and Eilís. This name was recorded in late medieval Ireland on women born into English and Anglo-Norman families... [more]

Ellicia f English (Rare)
Most likely a "Latinized" elaboration of Ellice.

Ellida f Finnish, Swedish, Norwegian (Rare), Danish (Rare), Theatre
Variant of Elida, a feminine form of Elliði. Ellida Wangel is the title character in the play Fruen fra havet (The Lady from the Sea) written by Norwegian playwright Henrik Ibsen in 1888.

Ellidora f English (Rare)

Ellie f Scots
Diminutive of Ellison.

Ellieana f English (Rare)
Variant of Eliana 1. Can also be a combination of Ellie and Ana.

Ellieanna f English (American, Rare)
Variant of Eliana 1, influenced by Ellie and Anna.

Ellieanne f English (American, Rare)
Variant of Eliane, influenced by Ellie and Anne 1.

Elliemae f English (Rare)
Combination of Ellie and Mae.

Elliemay f English
Combination of Ellie and May.

Ellienne f English (Rare), Louisiana Creole (Rare), French (Quebec, Archaic)
Variant of Élienne.

Elliese f English (American)
Variant of Elise.

Elliette f English (Rare)
Although this name presumably started out as a borrowing of French Éliette (the spelling being influenced by names such as Ellinor, Ella 1 and, later, Elle), it is now generally understood as a feminine form of Elliott.

Ellija f Latvian
Latvian borrowing of Ellie.

Ellika f Swedish, Low German (Archaic)
Diminutive of Ella 2.

Ellimere f Literature
Invented by Garth Nix for the Old Kingdom trilogy. Ellimere was the daughter of King Touchstone and Abhorsen Sabriel, and princess of the Old Kingdom.

Ellin f Indigenous Australian
An Aboriginal word that means "wish".

Ellin f English (Rare), Medieval English
Late medieval English variant of Ellen 1.

Ellina f Belarusian

Elliner f Medieval English
Variant of Ellinor.

Ellinoora f Finnish
Finnish variant of Eleanor.

Ellinora f Swedish (Rare), Finnish (Rare), Danish (Rare)
Variant of Ellinor.

Ellinore f Swedish
Variant of Ellinor.

Elliona f English, Filipino, Indonesian, Papuan

Ellioner f Medieval English
Medieval English form of Eleanor.

Ellior m & f Hebrew (Modern, Rare)
Variant of Elior.

Elliora f English (Rare)
Variant of Eliora.

Elliotte f & m English
Variant or feminine form of Elliott. American actress Marla Sokoloff (b. 1980) named her first-born daughter this.

Ellis f Dutch
Of uncertain origin and meaning; a short form of Elisabeth has been suggested.

Ellis f Danish, Swedish, Norwegian (Archaic)
Of debated origin and meaning; theories include a short form of Elisa, a Scandinavian variant of Alice reflecting the English pronunciation and a borrowing of the masculine name... [more]

Ellisa f English (Rare)
Variant of Elisa.

Ellise f English
Variant of Elise.

Ellisev f Swedish (Rare, Archaic)
Variant of Ellisiv.

Ellisha f & m English (Rare), English (African, Rare)
Variant of Alicia. In the case of the African English masculine name that's occasionally used in Nigeria and rarely Zimbabwe, it's a rare variant of Elisha.

Ellisia f English (British, Modern, Rare)
Also may be after the flower, Ellisia or a feminization of Ellis.

Ellisif f Icelandic, Medieval Scandinavian
Icelandic form of Elizabeth. It originated as a "Nordicized" form of Yelizaveta, the original Russian name of the 11th-century Rus' princess (daughter of the Kievan ruler Yaroslav) who married King Haraldr III of Norway.

Ellisiv f Norwegian
Variant of Ellisif.

Ellisiw f Swedish (Rare)
Variant of Ellisiv.

Ellison f Scots
Scots form of Alison.

Ellison m & f English
Transferred use of the surname Ellison.

Ellissa f Old Swedish
Variant of Alisa.

Ellisyn f English (American, Modern, Rare)
Female variant of Ellison.

Ellita f English (Modern, Rare)

Ellithia f Filipino

Elliw m & f Welsh
Probably derived from lliw, meaning "colour" in Welsh.

Ellizabeth f English (Rare)
Variant of Elizabeth.

Ellmerich f East Frisian (Archaic)

Ellnor f Medieval English
Medieval English form of Eleanor.

Ello f Sami
Sami variant of Ella 2.

Ellody f English (Rare)
Anglicized form of Élodie.

Elloise f English (Rare)
Variant of Eloise.

Ellona f English (Rare), Jewish
Variant of Elona.

Elloner f American (South)
American English regional name (Appalachian) influenced by Eleanor.

Ellora f English, French (Modern)
Of uncertain origin and meaning. It might be a variant of Elora or an adoption of the name of the Ellora Caves of India, an ancient network of caverns containing hieroglyphic writings archeologists still have not deciphered the meaning of.

Ellorie f English (Modern, Rare)
Variant of Ellery.

Ellory m & f English (Rare)
Variant of Ellery.

Ellot f Medieval English
Diminutive of Ellen 1.

Ellouisa f English (British, Rare), South African (Rare)
Variant of Elouisa.

Ellouise f English
Variant of Elouise.

Ellowen f English (British, Rare)
Variant of Elowen.

Ellowyn f English (American, Modern, Rare)
Variant of Elowen.

Ells f English (Rare)

Ellsie f English (American, Rare)

Ellu f Estonian
Variant of Elli 2 and Elle.

Ellwyn f & m English
Variant of Elwyn.

Ellý f Icelandic
Icelandic form of Elly.

Ellyana f English (American, Modern, Rare)
Variant of Eliana 1

Ellyanna f English (Modern, Rare)
Variant of Eliana 1.

Ellybeth f Obscure

Ellyce f English (American, Rare)

Ellye f American (Rare)

Ellyn f English (Rare, Archaic), Medieval English
Fifteenth century variant of 'Helen'. This spelling has been found not infrequently on lists of medieval and Elizabethan names. One register of a period church lists the name four-to-one over more 'conventional' spelling 'Ellen'... [more]

Ellyner f Medieval English
Variant of Ellynor.

Ellynn f English (Rare)
Variant of Ellen 1.

Ellynne f English (Modern)
Variant of Ellen 1.

Ellynor f Medieval English
Medieval English form of Eleanor.

Ellyot m & f English (Modern, Rare)
Variant of Elliot.

Ellyott f & m English (Modern, Rare)
Variant of Elliott.

Ellys f & m English (Rare), Brazilian (Rare)
Variant of Ellis.

Ellyse f English (Rare)
Variant of Elise.

Ellysia f English
Variant of Elysia.

Ellyssa f American (Rare)
Variant of Alyssa.

Ellyzabeth f English
Variant of Elizabeth incorporating the diminutive Elly.

Ellyze f Filipino (Rare)
Variant of Elise.

Elma f Italian, Catalan
Feminine form of Elmo.

Elma f Hungarian
Hungarian form of Alma 1.

Elma f Bosnian, Albanian

Elmara f Portuguese (Brazilian, Rare)

Elmarie f Afrikaans (Modern)

Elmasia f Greek (Rare)
Used to be shared among Greek women in Anatolia, the Greek version of the Turkish name Elmas, ultimately of Persian origin.

Elmaz f & m Arabic
Variant transcription of ألماس (see Almas.

Elme f Estonian
Variant of Elma.

Elmede f Livonian (Rare), Medieval Baltic (Rare)
Derived from Livonian elmed, the plural form of elm "pearl".

Elmedina f Bosnian, Albanian, Kosovar
Variant of Almedina.

Elmena f English

Elmeria f English

Elmerine f English (American, Rare)
Feminine form of Elmer.

Elmerita f English
Meaning unknown. Perhaps a feminine form of Elmer or, although unlikely, a form of Elma

Elmeskhan f Circassian (Rare)
Meaning unknown. A known bearer was Elmeskhan Khagundokova (1898-1985), a Circassian legionary commander and brigadier general.

Elmi f Estonian
Variant of Elme.

Elmi f Finnish
Variant of Elma.

Elmiina f Finnish
Short form of Vilhelmiina.

Elmiine f Estonian (Archaic)
Estonian form of Elmine.

Elmina f Dutch, German
Short form of Wilhelmina.

Elmindreda f Literature
The name of a character from the Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan.

Elminia f Spanish (Latin American)
Elaboration of Elmina.

Elmira f Iranian

Elmira f Albanian

Elmire f French (Rare), French (Belgian, Rare)
French form of Elmira 1.

Elmyra f English (Rare), Popular Culture
Variant of Elmira 1. Elmyra Duff is a character from the cartoon Tiny Toon Adventures.

Elna f Afrikaans
Contraction of Elisabeth and Helena.

Elna f Catalan (Modern)
Popularized Catalan name that refers to the northern Catalan city of Elna. At the end of the Spanish Civil War, a Maternity Hospital was set up in Elna, run by a Swiss nurse - Elisabeth Eidenbenz - who looked after pregnant women from the Republican refugee camps who were fleeing Franco's fascist troops... [more]

Elnara f Azerbaijani, Kazakh, Crimean Tatar
From Turkic el meaning "people, country, nation" and Persian انار (anâr) meaning "pomegranate".

Elnaz f Persian
From Turkic el meaning "country, society" combined with Persian ناز (naz) meaning "delight, comfort, coquetry, affectation".

Elner f Medieval English
Variant of Elnor.

Elnera f English (Rare, Archaic), Filipino

Elnice f Portuguese (Brazilian)
Contracted form of Elenice.

Elnith f English (British, Rare, Archaic)

Elnor f English (Rare)
Contracted form of Eleanor.

Elnore f English (Rare), Medieval English
Contracted form of Eleanor.

Elnoz f Uzbek
From the Uzbek el meaning "people, nation, country" and noz meaning "flirtiousness", "whim", "tenderness" or "fondness".

Elnura f Kyrgyz, Kazakh
From the Turkic word el meaning "country, society" and Arabic نور (nur) meaning "light".

Elnuri f Uzbek
From the Uzbek el meaning "people, nation, country" and nur meaning "ray, beam, light".

Elo m & f Finnish (Rare, Archaic)
Means "life" (a poetic expression) and "crop, corn" (a dated expression) in Finnish. It may also be a variant of Elof, Elodia or Eloise.

Elo f Spanish
Diminutive of Eloisa.

Elo f Esan
Means "face, eye" in Esan.

Éloa f French, Literature
French form of Eloah... [more]

Eloá f Portuguese (Brazilian)
Portuguese (Brazilian) form of Eloah.

Eloah m & f Theology, Portuguese (Brazilian)
A variant of Elah or a singular form of Elohim, typically occurring only in poetry and prose. This unusual singular form of Elohim is used in six places for heathen deities (cf... [more]

Éloane f French (Modern)
Feminine form of Eloan.

Eloane f French (Belgian, Rare)
Feminine form of Eloan.

Elochukwu m & f Igbo
"elo" means plan while "chukwu" means God. "Elochukwu" means the plan of God or God's plan.

Elodéa f French (Rare)
Cognate of Elodea.

Elodea f English (American, Rare, Archaic), French (Acadian, Rare, Archaic)
Derived from Elodea, a genus of several underwater freshwater perennials, often called the waterweeds, which was first described as a genus in 1803. The name itself is a New Latin coinage, ultimately derived from Ancient Greek ἕλος (hélos) “marsh-meadow".

Elódia f Portuguese
Portuguese form of Elodia

Elòdia f Catalan
Catalan form of Elodia.

Élodine f French (African, Rare)
Elaboration of Élodie.

Elody f English (Rare), French (Modern, Rare), Italian (Modern, Rare)
Modern variant of Élodie.

Eloghosa m & f Edo
Possibly means "it's not hard for God" in Edo. It could be the older name of Benin City, the capital of Edo State in Nigeria.

Eloheinu f & m Biblical Hebrew
Means "Our God" in Hebrew.

Eloida f Spanish (Latin American), Spanish (Philippines)

Eloika f Hawaiian
Hawaiian form of Eloise.

Eloína f Spanish
Feminine form of Eloy.

Eloina f Catalan, Portuguese (Brazilian)
Feminine form of Eloi and Elói.

Eloïne f French (Modern, Rare), French (Belgian, Modern, Rare)
Feminine form of Éloi.

Eloine f Portuguese (Brazilian, Rare)
Variant of Eloina.

Elois f English
Variant of Eloise.

Eloïsa f Catalan
Catalan variant of Eloísa.

Eloïse f Guernésiais, French (Belgian)
Guernésiais form of Eloise and French variant of Éloïse.

Eloisia f Italian
Elaboration of Eloisa.

Eloisy f Brazilian (Rare)
Brazilian variant of Eloise reflecting the Brazilian Portuguese pronunciation.

Eloīza f Latvian (Modern, Rare)
Latvian borrowing of Eloise.

Eloiza f Portuguese (Brazilian)
Variant of Heloísa.

Eloize f Brazilian (Modern)
Variant of Eloise.

Elona f French, Lithuanian, Various, Jewish (?)
Variant of Alona.

Elona f Albanian

Elonda f English
The name might have been inspired by other names ending in the -onda sound such as Shonda and Wanda.

Elonga f Lingala
Means "victory" in Lingala.

Elonique f Dutch (Rare)

Elonora f Portuguese (Brazilian, Rare)
Variant of Eleanora.

Elophia f Romani

Elor m & f Hebrew (Modern)
Combination of the names El and Or means "God of light" in Hebrew, also variant of names like Elior and Orel.

Elorah f Obscure

Eloralyn f English (American)
A combination of the name Elora with the name Lynn.

Eloree f English (American, Rare), English (New Zealand, Rare)

Eloren f Brazilian

Elori m & f Brazilian (Rare)

Eloria f Basque
Variant of Elorria.

Elorie f Basque (Gallicized)
Gallicized form of Eloria.

Elorri f Basque
Derived from Basque elorri "hawthorn". In Basque folklore, the hawthorn has been considered a sacred plant.

Elorria f Basque
Derived from Basque elorri "hawthorn". In Basque folklore, the hawthorn has been considered a sacred plant.

Elouera f English (Australian)
An Aboriginal name meaning "a pleasant place"

Elouisa f English (Rare), English (British, Rare)
Variant of Elouise.

Elovie f English

Elovisa f English (Rare, Archaic)
Variant of Eloisa or Lovisa.

Elowenn f Cornish (Modern, Rare)
Variant of Elowen.

Elowyn f Cornish
Variant of Elowen.

Elowynn f Obscure
Variant of Elowen.

Eloxochitl m & f Nahuatl, Mexican (Rare)
Means "magnolia" in Nahuatl.

Eloyse f Brazilian (Modern, Rare)
Variant of Eloise.

Eloyze f Brazilian (Modern, Rare)
Variant of Eloise.

Elpedia f Filipino
Filipino form of Elpidia.

Elphaba f Literature
Created by author Gregory Maguire for the central character in his fantasy novel 'Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West' (1995). It was formed from L-F-B, the initials of L. Frank Baum, author of 'The Wonderful Wizard of Oz' (1900).

Elphège f Norman
Norman feminine name of unknown etymology, perhaps related to Alphege (Old English in origin).

Elphia f English (American, Archaic)

Elphie f Literature
Elphie is a pet form of the name Elphaba and German feminine names beginning with Elf-, for example Elfrida.

Elphira f American (Rare)

Elpi f Greek
Short form of Elpiniki.

Elpide f Georgian (Rare)
Georgian form of Elpida and/or Elpidia.

Elpidia f Greek, Spanish, Italian, Polish
Feminine form of Elpidius.

Elpidice f Ancient Greek (Latinized)
From Greek ἐλπίς (elpis) "hope" and δίκη (dike) "justice".

Elpie m & f Filipino (Rare)
DIminutive of Elpidio or Elpidia.

Elpinice f Ancient Greek (Latinized)
Latinized form of Elpinike.

Elpinike f Ancient Greek
Derived from Greek ἐλπίς (elpis) meaning "hope" and νίκη (nike) meaning "victory".

Elpiniki f Greek
Modern Greek form of Elpinike.

Elpinoe f Ancient Greek
From the word ελπίδα meaning hope and νόημα meaning meaning

Elraine f English (Rare)
Possibly derived from the surname Mcelraine.

Elrena f Popular Culture
This name was borne by a character on the video game “Kingdom Hearts X”, who was a Keyblade wielder in training. Elrena was the original form of Larxene, a member of Organization XIII who was the only female for a good amount of time.

Elreza f Afrikaans

Elrie f English (American, Modern, Rare)
Variant of Ellory

Elrien f Afrikaans

Elrike f German
Variation of Elrik.

Elrose f English (Modern, Rare), South African (Rare)

Elsá f Sami
Sami form of Elsa.

Elsabe f Afrikaans
Afrikaans variation of Elizabeth.

Elsabel f English
Combination of Elsa and the common suffix -bel.

Elsabena f German (Rare, Archaic), Dutch (Rare, Archaic)
Variant of Ilsabe.

Elsabet f Amharic
Amharic form of Elizabeth.

Elsabritt f Swedish (Rare)
Variant of Elsebritt.

Elsadora f English (Rare)

Elsah f English (Rare)
Variation of Elsa.

Elsalill f Swedish (Rare)
Variant of Elselill.

Elsaline f English (Rare)

Elsamira f Obscure
Combination of Elsa and Mira 2.

Elşan m & f Azerbaijani
Variant of Elşən.

Elsba f Faroese
Contracted form of Elsuba, itself the Faroese form of Elsebe. .

Elsbet f Swedish (Rare), Faroese
Contracted form of Elisabet.

Elsbeth f Scots (Rare), German
Ulster Scots variant of Elspeth and German contracted form of Elisabeth.

Elsbrit f Swedish (Rare)
Variant of Elsbritt.

Elsbritt f Swedish (Rare)
Variant of Elsebritt.

Elschbieta f German (Silesian, Archaic)
Germanized borrowing of Elżbieta.

Elsebe f Low German (Archaic), Medieval Baltic, Medieval Scandinavian, Old Norwegian, Norwegian (Rare)
Low German variant of Elsabe, recorded between the 15th and 18th centuries, which was also used in 15th-century Latvia and in Medieval Norway.

Elsebet f Old Danish, Danish (Rare)
Short form of Elisabet.

Elsébeth f Hungarian (Archaic)

Elsebeth f Danish, Medieval German
Contracted form of Elisabeth.

Elsebethe f Medieval German
Medieval German variant of Elisabeth.

Elsebrit f Swedish (Rare)
Variant of Elsebritt.

Elsebritt f Swedish (Rare)
Combination of Elsa and Britt.

Elseby f Swedish (Archaic), Old Swedish
Variant of Elzeby.

Elsegod f German (Rare, ?)

Elselijn f Dutch (Rare)
Combination of Else with the Dutch name suffix -lijn (which is more or less comparable to the English name suffix -lyn).

Elselill f Swedish (Rare), Norwegian (Rare)
Combination of Else and lilla "little".

Elselina f Dutch
Derived from the feminine Else and the popular feminine name ending -lina.

Elseline f Danish (Rare)

Elseliv f Swedish
Variant of the Old Swedish Elisiv... [more]

Elsemere f Popular Culture, American
Transferred use of the surname Elsemere.

Elsemiek f Dutch (Rare)
Variant form of Elsemieke.

Elsemieke f Dutch (Rare)
Combination of the names Else and Mieke. Also compare Ellemieke.... [more]

Elsena f English (American, Rare)
Variant of Elsina.

Elsera f Popular Culture (Rare)
"Elsera Snow is the bastard daughter of Lord Gregor Forrester and the sister of Josera Snow, both of whom live in the North Grove." -Telltale game, Game of thrones.

Elsette f Afrikaans (Rare)
Variant of Elzette.

Elsey f English (Rare)
Variant of Elsie.

Elsha f Indonesian (Rare)

Elshaday f & m African, Indonesian (Rare)
Variant of El Shaddai.

El Shaddai m & f African, Indonesian (Rare)
Derived from the Hebrew phrase אֵל שַׁדַּי (ʼĒl Šadạy) meaning "God Almighty".

Elsia f English (Rare)
Elaboration of Elsie.

Elsiana f Spanish (Latin American), Portuguese (Brazilian), Italian (Rare)

Elsianna f American (South, Rare)

Elsie f Scots
Diminutive of Ellison.

Elsiemae f English (British)
Combination of Elsie and Mae.

Elsika f Old Swedish
Diminutive of Elsa.

Elsimae f English (Rare)
Combination of Elsie and Mae.

Elsimira f Spanish
Variant of Elsamira.

Elsina f Dutch (Rare), English (American, Rare), Afrikaans
Dutch diminutive of Elisabeth as well as a feminine form of Ale 2.

Elsine f Danish (Rare), Swedish (Rare), Norwegian (Archaic)
Variant of Elsina.

Elsinora f Obscure
Possibly a variant of Elsinore or combination of Elsie and Nora 1.

Elsinore f Literature, English (American, Rare)
From the name of Hamlet's castle, which is an anglicized form of Helsingør, a Danish place name meaning "neck, narrow strait" (see Elsinore)... [more]

Elsita f Spanish (Archaic), Spanish (Latin American)
Diminutive of Elsa or Elsie / Elsy.

Elska f Low German (Rare)
Low German diminutive of Elisabeth.

Elskea f East Frisian
19th-century East Frisian elaboration of Elske, itself an East Frisian diminutive of Elsa and Else.

Elspa f Scots (Archaic)
Variant of Elspeth via the other variant forms Elspath and Elspat.

Elspaith f Scots (Archaic), Medieval Scottish
Medieval Scots variant of Elspeth.

Elspie f Scottish
Diminutive of Elspeth

Elspit f Scottish
Scottish form of Elizabeth

Elssá f Sami
Sami form of Elsa.

Elsslin f Medieval German
Archaic diminutive of Elisabeth.

Elsu f Finnish
Finnish diminutive of Elsa.

Elsuba f Faroese
Faroese form of Elsebe.

Elsubet f Faroese
Faroese form of Elsebet.

Elsüer f Karachay-Balkar
From the Turkic name element el meaning "land, country" and the Karachay-Balkar meaning сюер (süer) meaning "will love".

Elsuluv f Uzbek
From the Uzbek el meaning "people, nation, country" and sulu(v) meaning "beautiful".

Elswith f English (Rare)
Derived from the Old English name Ealhswiþ.

Elswyth f English (Rare)
Variant of Elswith. It was borne by American romance novelist Elswyth Thane (1900-1984), original name Helen Ricker.

Elta f American (Rare)
Perhaps a variant of Alta.

Eltanin f & m Astronomy
Derived from Arabic Al Ras al Tinnin, meaning "the dragon's head". This is one of the traditional names of the star Gamma Draconis in the constellation Draco.

Eltje f & m West Frisian

Eltona f Albanian
Feminine form of Elton.

Elts f Estonian (Rare)

Elu f Indigenous American
Means "a woman full of grace; beautiful; fair" in Zuni, spoken in New Mexico and Arizona.