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BTN's Favorite Names 2016
2011 results: http://www.behindthename.com/bb/baby/4199011
2012 results: http://www.behindthename.com/bb/baby/4356914
2013 results: http://www.behindthename.com/bb/baby/4483121
2014 results: http://www.behindthename.com/bb/baby/4574822
2015 results: http://www.behindthename.com/bb/baby/4664550Hello BTN.As I have for the last 5 years now, I took all the names posted in the monthly top 10 posts and counted them and come up with “BTN’s Favorite Names”.Participation is down this year. On average, 36 people responded to the Top 10 thread each month this year. Tell your friends.I count similarly to the SSA: Accents do not count (for example, Léo and Leo are counted as one name). If a combo was posted, only the first name was counted, and if a poster could not decide between two or more names, I counted the first one ("James / John, can’t decide" counts for James), and if something was posted that appeared to be a double name, it was counted as a double name. Only 10 names per gender per person were counted, so if anyone ever sneakily posted an 11th, I didn’t count it.
Last year's number 1 names were Arthur and Clara.
For boys, #1 is Arthur, for the third year in a row. However, unlike last year where Arthur ranked first by a landslide, this year, it was very very close. For girls, the new #1 is Helena. This is Helena’s first time at #1, but it has been #2 twice— in 2009 and last year, 2015.Here's the top 20 for girls and the top 25 for boys for 2016. To get an idea of how many people (roughly) posted each name each month, divide the number in parenthesis by 12. 1. Helena (50, 1.14%)
2. Rose (48, 1.09%)
3. Clara (42, 0.96%)
4. Alice (41, 0.94%)
5. Louisa (37, 0.84%)
6. Iris (36, 0.82%)
7. Georgiana, Josephine, Willow (34, 0.77%)
8. Luna, Lyra (33, 0.75%)
9. Octavia, Zoe (31, 0.71%)
10. Eleanor (28, 0.64%)
11. Lucy (27, 0.61%)
12. Matilda (26, 0.59%)
13. Miriam, Sylvie (24, 0.55%)
14. Hazel (23, 0.52%)
15. Ivy, Lily, Maude (22, 0.50%)
16. Beatrix, Xanthe (21, 0.48%)
17. Elodie, Eloise, Juliet, Persephone (20, 0.46%)
18. Anna, Susanna, Winifred (19, 0.43%)
19. Amelia, Astrid, Juniper, Rosalie (18, 0.41%)
20. Anastasia, Aurora, Cecilia, Cordelia, Elizabeth, Freya, Katherine (17, 0.39%)1. Arthur (80, 1.85%)
2. Alexander (79, 1.82%)
3. Henry, Sebastian (58, 1.34%)
4. Nicholas (50, 1.15%)
5. Ezra (48, 1.11%)
6. William (47, 1.08%)
7. Leo (46, 1.06%)
8. Isaac, James, Jasper, Oscar (42, 0.97%)
9. Gabriel (41, 0.95%)
10. Thomas (39, 0.90%)
11. George (37, 0.85%)
12. Samuel (36, 0.83%)
13. August, Benjamin (35, 0.81%)
14. Edmund (31, 0.71%)
15. Felix, Francis (30, 0.69%)
16. Oliver (29, 0.67%)
17. John, Jonathan (26, 0.60%)
18. Horatio, Nikolai, Otto (24, 0.55%)
19. Adrian, Augustus, Caspian, Elijah, Evander, Nathaniel, Theodore (22, 0.51%)
20. Charles, Lorenzo, Spencer, Walter (21, 0.48%)
21. Griffin, Jack, Malcolm, Peter (20, 0.46%)
22. Jonah (19, 0.44%)
23. Asher, Clark, Fergus, Mordecai (18, 0.42%)
24. Connor, Hamish, Phoenix, Ronan (17, 0.39%)
25. Caspar, Dominic, Edgar, Heath, Micah, Ptolemy (16, 0.37%)
Typically I also post the top 10 for "All Time" (2008-2016). It's moving a little more slowly now, so I'll post the top 20 in a post below.
As always, I have all the data on spreadsheets, so if you want the source data for any year, send me a PM with your email address. I'll also be happy to check where specific names rank.
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once again ...This list really points up the difference between what is popular according to an Internet forum and what is popular in real life according to statistics of actual births.
It's really amazing how sharp the difference is.
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I'll have to run some comparisons again, but to an extent, BTN does predict or reflect SSA trends-- we just have a bit more of a niche style so these names aren't necessarily going to be, like, top 10 material. Before posting, I was actually looking at your post saying the same thing in 2013, and my reply wherein I went through a bunch and compared us to the SSA (http://www.behindthename.com/bb/baby/4483684). One of the comments I made was:
QuoteMargot (rising not ranked. Will rank for sure next year if it continues at it's current pace!)
The 2013 SSA chart came out 5 months later and Margot did chart, at #943. It's #592 now. Huge rise in 3 years. (It's kind of bouncy on BTN though). SSA top 10s vary quite a bit even by state/region. Plus, we have international influence.
I'll do some comparisons and get back to you.

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the difference is much more pronounced ...On the girls' list than on the boys' list, with the notable exception of Ptolemy.
Solveig says she wouldn't even blink if she encountered a Ptolemy, but that is not the same thing as Ptolemy's popularity on the BTN list being related to its popularity in real life, and the fact is she is highly unlikely to ever encounter a Ptolemy of any age who was given that name by his parents (as opposed to giving it to himself as a stage name or something.) In fact, if she, or anybody else, said they encountered one, it would be a very big surprise. I would be fairly sure that anyone claiming to have known "several" Ptolemies is full of BS.On the girls' list, only a couple of top-100 names are in the top 20, and top-tenners Isabella, Ava, Emily and Sophia are nowhere to be found.
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I really don't understand your point- of course the BtN list isn't going to reflect the SSA list exactly because we're a small sample size that actually *isn't* the same as the general population even though we are apart of the general public. It is what is known as a "sampling bias". That is why you try and get a representative sample in any kind of research if you want to generalize your findings to the "general public". Rachel Shaina isn't trying to do that- she does this for her own interest and for ours. We have a sampling bias because even though anyone can post on these boards, most don't. The people who post here are mostly female, are generally more highly educated or at least read more than the general population, have an interest in names (therefore are less likely to pick a name they just hear regularly like Isabella), and actively spend time weighing the pros and cons of names. Of course it won't reflect the SSA charts, just like if you took a sample of children of college professors or a sample of children born in a small Southern town that is mostly African-American- it won't be anything close to the SSA charts but still might be interesting just because it does reflect that sample. It just won't be generalizable to the population at large.
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I didn't really have a particular point ...I was just kind of surprised at how far removed the BTN rankings are from the SSA rankings. It was just striking, is all.
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My sister knows a Ptolemy. I know his aunt. They're out there....
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A celeb recently used Ptolemy. Not sure who or when. The reason I wouldn't blink at a Ptolemy is the sheer WTH names I come across all the time. It's got a geeky vibe to it and fits into the geek naming niche. No, I'll probably never know more than one, but it wouldn't surprise me.
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Don't get hung up on Ptolemy. 16 uses means 1 person posted it every month and 1 other person posted it 4 times. That's it. Last year it was only posted 12 times (1 person really likes it), and prior to that, it didn't even make BTN's top 100. It has 43 all-time postings; it ties with Emrys and Sidre and Theron (and Mark, heh). BTNers typically avoid very popular names. Surely in your time here, you've seen plenty posts saying "I like this name but it's too popular". Sophia did okay, actually (10 postings). Isabella, Ava, and Emily got 2 each. Try to think more in terms of movement, rather than where a name ranks now. Is it going up or down? Remember that a large majority of actively posting BTNers don't have children [yet]. And that this is a small sample size and that it's a pretty specific sample (I'd go through our last roll call, but I'm busy comparing name popularities) wherein most of the people are white 18-30sish? educated women. That's what I meant by niche.I'm almost done comparing the girls. I'll put the comparisons in a top level reply when I'm done.

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We have taste, the general public does not.If I were part of a gourmet cooking website, I wouldn't express surprise that they never post a recipe for a Big Mac.
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how is taste even measured?Never mind that we're all "the general public" here. There's no taste-test to pass to be able to post on here, and what's the difference in "taste" between somebody liking non-BTN-top-twenty Emily and BTN-ranked-top-twenty Sophia anyway?
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It's measured by me. I was making the judgment, so it was measured by me. My judgment is that you see a big difference between what is most liked here and what is most used by the general public because the people here have better taste than the general public does. Although anyone is free to post here, people who love names enough to find a site such as this one and post on it regularly are different from 99.9% of people, who shake their heads and inwardly, if not outwardly, roll their eyes at the very idea of a board like this one.
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it isn't me ...Who determines what's popular in the real world, on real kids. The SSA has the data, and the UK and other countries collect and publish their own data, and the top twenties for each country are very different from the one for BTN.
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You do this each year and eaxh year Rachel Shaina clearly shows how the the names are rising.It's ridiculous
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It is true that the names we like tend to be up-and-coming, sort of pushing fashion ahead of them.
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I'm not sure what your point is. I didn't say it was you. Obviously the SSA list, and whatever means the other countries use, are indicators of the taste of the general public. You pointed out the difference, and I gave what I think is the reason for it.
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Perhaps taste is cultivated by the rather small portion of the general population who choose to spend large chunks of their spare time considering and appreciating names.I've always said that the people who know something the best are the people who love it. Love/appreciation tells you things about a topic that nothing else can.
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Not a single one of those names on the list would make me blink in real life. Each and every one of those names has a trendy sound and many of them are growing in popularity. Boards like this tend to be predictions of popularity to come. I used to love the name Ezra and people thought it was odd, and now it's quite popular.And no, my crowd of friends isn't odd at all. I come across these names at daycare , at Library events, etc. I wouldn't even blink at Ptolemy, but I would suspect his parents were highly intelligent geeks or history buffs
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Luna surprises me. Too much like "lunatic". So does Peter, when Paul is still off radar. Perhaps Peter is riding on the coat tails of fashionable -er names like Archer.
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On my December list are:8. Luna, Lyra (33, 0.75%)1. Arthur (80, 1.85%)
5. Ezra (48, 1.11%)
8. James (42, 0.97%)
19. Evander (22, 0.51%)I also really love Josephine, Astrid & Juniper for girls and Jasper, Edmund, Nikolai, Caspian, Jack and Dominic for boys. I think Nikolai might make my January list.I think it's been a trend for some time now that BtNers (and probably the general public, too) experiment less with boys' names than with girls' names, or at least, pick less unique names; funny, given that BtN lists 11k+ boys' names and 9.5k girls' names.
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Comparison to SSA listsThese are the overall SSA trends for all the names appearing here. The data is over a 5 year span (2011-2015). I bolded the really large rises (like 100+ ranks). I would have done the same for big falls, but there were none. Honestly though, you don’t even need to read all of this to see that, overall, the majority of names are rising.
Ranks & Rising:
Rose (#290 -> #166), Clara (#151-> #98), Alice (#140-> #86), Louisa (unranked -> #907), Iris (#302-> #217), Josephine (#182-> #131), Willow (#200-> #111), Luna (#278-> #110), Eleanor (#150->#60), Lucy (#72->#55), Matilda (#769-> #533), Hazel (#209->#63), Ivy (#264-> #129), Eloise (#449-> #255), Amelia (#30-> #12), Astrid (unranked-> #890), Juniper (#952-> #429), Anastasia (#372-> #216), Aurora (#182-> #79), Cecilia (#242-> #181), Cordelia (unranked -> #948), Freya (unranked-> #417)Arthur (#338-> #292), Henry (#57-> #29), Sebastian (#68-> #35), Ezra (#203-> #92), Leo (#167-> #91), James (#17-> #7), Jasper (#281->#215), Thomas (#63-> #51), George (#165-> #135), August

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I can get into Elena (used to be in my Top 10) or Ellen, but not Helena or Helen - the fact that they start with the "hell" sound bothers me. And Arthur has been on-and-off in my Top 10 for a while; now it's in one of my combos as a middle name.Of the list, I like:
Clara
Iris (I probably contributed greatly to this being in the BtN Top 10 this year!)
Josephine
Willow
Octavia (though I think the Italian variant, Ottavia, is actually prettier)
Zoe
Eleanor
Miriam
Lily
Maude (this made the Top 20! Wow!)
Xanthe (I go back and forth between preferring this or Xanthia)
Eloise
Juliet
Winifred
Rosalie
Anastasia
Cordelia
Freya
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Arthur
Sebastian
Nicholas
William
Leo
Isaac (also probably greatly contributed to this one)
James
Oscar
Thomas (and this one)
Edmund
Jonathan (and I guess John too, but... I know so, so many of them)
Nikolai (if I were Russian, this would be my son's name)
Otto
Adrian
Elijah
Nathaniel
Spencer
Malcolm (longtime favorite)
Jonah
Ronan
Dominic (another longtime favorite)
Micah
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All Time (2008-2016) Top 20sNumber of uses and percentage of use are in the brackets and rank change in the parenthesis.
As of 2016, we have posted 3202 unique female names and 2577 unique boys names. That means there were 232 new female and 181 new male names this year.
1. Rose [381, 0.98%] (0)
2. Alice [375, 0.96%] (0)
3. Iris [341, 0.88%] (0)
4. Helena [333, 0.86%] (0)
5. Charlotte [295, 0.76%] (0)
6. Louisa [293, 0.75%] (0)
7. Eleanor [279, 0.72%] (0)
8. Matilda [270, 0.69%] (0)
9. Elizabeth [246, 0.63%] (0)
10. Clara [244, 0.63%] (+3)
11. Penelope [231, 0.59%] (-1)
12. Anna [230, 0.59%] (-1)
13. Astrid [221, 0.57%] (-1)
14. Willow [218, 0.56%] (+4)
16. Beatrix, Cecily [214, 0.55%] (+1, -1)
17. Lydia [210, 0.54%] (-2)
18. Miriam [208, 0.53%] (-1)
19. Sylvie [201, 0.52%] (0)
20. Josephine [198, 0.51%] (new, up from #25)
leaving the top 20: Xanthe (now #30)1. Henry [574, 1.49%] (0)
2. Alexander [509, 1.31%] (0)
3. Arthur [498, 1.29%] (0)
5. August, William [445, 1.15%] (0, 0)
6. Theodore [399, 1.03%] (0)
7. Leo [388, 1.00%] (+1)
8. James [386, 1.00%] (-1)
9. Felix [368, 0.95%] (0)
10. Thomas [357, 0.92%] (0)

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